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  1. macmaster05

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    Hello everyone. After a long season of applying to grad school, I finally decided to move from CA to the East Coast for my PhD in Biomedical Sciences. As you know I LOVE my Prius, but I'm having major qualms about taking it with me. First, it would cost ~$1000 to ship it across the country. Then, I would have to register it and have it inspected. Finally, my window tint isn't even legal in my new state. I just have a very bad feeling about bringing it out East. Fortunately, my new school and neighborhood has decent public transportation; I can use the bus for free with my student ID.

    My plan, therefore, is to leave my Prius at home with my parents. I could always decide to ship it later or buy a cheap, used car...What is the smart thing to do with my Prius? What would you do? I never imagined in my life I might have to part with it.

    If you'd like to ask me more about where I'm going to study, shoot me a PM and I'd love to talk to you more. I also will probably have more questions about moving as the spring and summer progresses but I thought I'd start with the important stuff for now; the Prius.

    Thank you!! I know I can always count on you guys.
     
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    Leave it at home. No car = saved money. Just make sure your parents or someone else drives it to keep the battery happy.

    If, after a while you find your PhD is going well and the use of public transportation is working you can sell the car and then get another car later. A bird in the hand of the student loan company is worth two in the bush of unused asset.
     
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    Ummm, A road trip across country in a 2009 Prius???

    Or, If you are going to be driving it very little to none during school breaks, just sell it, and put the excess money towards school for less student loans and buy a new prius when you graduate and manage to find a job that pertains to your degree.
     
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  4. The Electric Me

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    If you don't take it with you, when would you foresee getting back to the vehicle?

    And how much do you love it?

    If you foresee not getting back to your Prius for a year or longer? I'd probably just sell it. As hard as that might sound.

    But nobody is really getting value or use out of a vehicle simply sitting in storage.

    Of course, if your Parents can actually use it? That might be different. But you know about "pesky" Parents. There might be crazy, High MPG road trips! With who knows what type of Middle Aged or Senior anctics happening...

    Can you trust your parents with your Prius?

    You are actually in a tough situation. Good Luck...
     
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    Good advice. I forgot to explain my financial situation though: As a (science) PhD student you get free tuition and a stipend that covers enough to scrape a living, so I won't have an issue with loans. I never thought about selling my Prius. Oh my...
     
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    I should've explained this better too, lol. My parents could definitely use the Prius. In fact, my dad needs a new car (though he's sort of a Prius hater) and my mom already owns a Prius (she's a Prius lover). So it'd definitely be in good hands. As I explained in my post above, selling it isn't really a priority for me. I have cash from working the past couple years, and I will be supported financially during my education (thank you NIH!). I won't be saving any respectable amount of money but I shouldn't be losing much either, unless of course I buy thousands of dollars of furniture for my new place...which is a conversation we should save for another day.
     
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    Perfect. Offer your dad the use of your car while you are at college. Try to sweeten the deal for him by suggesting that when the "lease" expires the money he'll have saved will help him buy a mid-life-crisis-mobile.

    If he bites, he'll get immersion therapy for his Prius hate and in 3 years time maybe you'll come home to find that his mid-life crisis has been limited to a custom red paint job on his PiP.
     
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    What section of the East Coast? New England / Mid-Atlantic / South East? Unless you're in the city, and even then, the bus will probably be a big change in terms of convenience. My vote says you bring it with you.
     
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    if money is not the problem and you have space to park your prius then have a road trip ;-) and take it with you
    how many years are you going to be there.. 4 years?

    if its more then take your prius if its less then leave it at home
    make sure your parents drive it.
     
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    This doesn't sound difficult. Your Dad needs a car, and you don't. :)

    Plus, you don't have to really part with your prized possession, and you might make a convert out of your Dad. It might be a little too cool for him, but maybe he'll grow into it. ;)
     
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    I'm sure you'll make the best decision regarding your car, and congratulations on pursuing your PhD here on the "right" coast. :)
     
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    Having spent 5 years as a science PhD student, I can tell you that you'll never feel like you have enough money living on stipend. A good example is, if you want to move to a different place, you'll need to scrape together first, last, and deposit for the new one before you pay the last and get the deposit back on the old one. I knew lots of people that hated where they lived but were trapped there in that way. Don't waste time and energy worrying about money and managing your cash flow. Sell the car and put the money in the bank.
     
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    Yeah, sure leave it with your parents then.

    But if you do ever get it back, realize it probably will have one of those Vanillaroma Air Freshener Pine Trees in it...
     
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    Yes and no. Read on. And for now, let's ignore the fact that my dad could use the car (he has his beater that works fine).

    Since you asked, I'm going to Pittsburgh, PA and will be likely living in one of the surrounding neighborhoods like Shadyside or Squirrel Hill, which apparently are in good walking distance to several grocery stores and even a Target, I hear.

    Pros for having car: Convenience is the biggest factor, plus my Prius is completely paid off. A car would be useful for runs to Costco, social events, and getting to the lab on weekends when I need to. One other thing you should know though is that I plan to basically have nothing when I arrive in Pennsylvania, so I think I might need a car to get myself afloat (buying cheap furniture, etc). Just FYI, I'm living at home right now and I'm leaving everything put. It's not that I'm planning to ever live at home again, it's just that that furniture has become part of my parents' house, and it's time for me to fly on my own.

    Cons for having a car: My main reasons against bringing the car is that it will cost me money to take it (whether I drive or ship it), register it, and insure it. I'm also very worried that it won't pass inspection or I'll get pulled over for my now-illegal window tint. Side question: PA window tint law says on sun-screening is "regulated when operating on Pennsylvania highways." Does this mean I won't get pulled over if I'm simply driving around town, i.e., not on the highway? I'm not familiar with how PA policing and state troopers operate. If anyone from PA knows that'd be of great help.
    http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/fs-sun.pdf

    The other big question on my mind is how and when do I get my car there if I decide to use it? Part of me also wants to just see how life is in Pittsburgh without a car and decide how much I need it after a few months. That way I also won't have to worry about new car registration, insurance, and all that junk right when I get there. On the other hand, my dad has offered to take a road trip with me before school starts. That would also help us move a few boxes of my stuff.

    Now I'm told by a couple of current students that the Grad Office sets me up with students who will "help me" make the transition, and my future classmates seem pretty helpful too. To what extent that actually means ( driving me around or giving me a temporary place to stay), I have no idea.

    Ok I've told you guys everything I know. Hopefully that information is helpful for you to help me. I really appreciate all the input and advice on life.
     
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    Hopefully someone in PA can chime in on the window tint and costs to inspect and register the car. I know that Pittsburgh itself you could probably manage with public transportation, but I'm not sure about the other cities you mentioned. I know in today's world, it's pretty difficult to go without a vehicle, and since yours is paid for I'm still leaning towards taking it with you. I also believe that unless it's your legally registered address, you shouldn't have to register the vehicle in PA if you're there for school. I may be incorrect on that, though.

    I vote for taking your car, and if it turns out you don't need it then you can sell it after you get there or make a road trip back home and fly back to Pitts. Just remember, Pittsburgh is in the mountains and does get winter weather also. You'd want to invest in some snow tires if you don't already have them.
     
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    If you retain your domicile (parents' basement :D) in CA while studying you should be able to continue to register in CA. It might require a road trip once a year for inspection. States generally grant deferrals and exemptions for residents working away.

    However, the rule "operating" on a highway (that'll mean any public road , BTW) with a tint could be a problem even though you have CA plates.

    List of U.S. cities with most households without a car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Pittsburgh is #11 for US cities with residents not owning a car. I would expect that you'll be fine using public transportation and can forget the LA car-is-essential mindset. But, I'm sure organizations at the university can give you more information about it.

    As for furnishings: this is temporary, not permanent. Bed, 2 chairs, desk, utensils. There's U-Haul and delivery services. (I figure you'll be able to carry warm clothes on the bus). I think free commuting and other local transportation plus not having to pay for shipping, insurance or parking will more than offset any first-time costs.

    While "public transportation" may make you think "inconvenience" as long as you learn that you can't rush everywhere* you can find it's more relaxing and you'll get time to read or play with a gadget. Plus, you'll benefit from the extra exercise you get. ;)

    * Writes the guy who used to work a few minutes too long on something that could wait until the next day and then run to catch a train.
     
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    If you can afford to do it, keep it and let your parents or one of your siblings drive it (they can pay for ongoing maintenance, insurance and license fees). Driving it is the best way to keep it healthy.

    If that isn't a possibility, then just sell it. They are selling like crazy right now so there will be no shortage of used Prii in the future.

    I went to grad school in MA (3 years!) and, for me, keeping a car was not an option. I didn't need one, though, as public transportation was great. I had a good paying job lined up when I graduated so car dealers were eager to sell and finance anything my heart desired. I'd bet that will be your case, too.
     
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    As with most decisions, there are pros and cons. Having your own transportation is more convenient, but also more expensive. There's always a trade-off, you just have to decide what you can live with and what you can't.

    It sounds like the communities you are considering are well-suited to not needing a car, which to me would be one of the biggest factors.

    Living on your own, I would hunch you will seldom need to purchase more than you can carry. With good walking shoes, a backpack, and maybe some additional clothing more suited to the new-to-you climate, you'll likely be just fine. Even if you had to pay a delivery charge for a mattress or something, that will be a small one-time fee, and hardly justifies paying for the care and feeding of your own vehicle. Chances are good one of your new friends will have a vehicle, so it's not like you'll be house-bound. Plus, you're a student - who needs furniture? Cases of beer make wonderful building blocks for all sorts of things, and empty milk crates are great storage units. :D
     
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    Thanks HS. This is exactly how I've been feeling. On that note I'm against taking the car right now. I almost think I should just hop on the airplane with a few clothes in a couple of suitcases and start fresh. Buy everything I need there from Target or if I want to go fancy, IKEA. The underlying theme of this strategy is to "see how things turn out" and really focus on my science, not a fab living style. I think I just need to keep this in perspective: Things will be hard, but they won't be that hard. I'm neither broke nor homeless. I'll still have all the love and support even 2500 miles away from home.