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Ideal MPH for ICE

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by markabele, Apr 30, 2012.

  1. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    If you had to have the cruise control with the ICE running (45+ mph) on a long, straight, flat stretch of highway with no other cars, weather is perfect, and no wind....what speed would you choose?

    Would it be about 46/47 or is the sweet spot somewhere in the 50's?
     
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    So far you are doing well
     
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    Mid to high forties.

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    What about with a slight uphill grade?
     
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    Should be close to the same. At low speeds the ICE is under utilized, so the Prius has to resort to on and off use of electric power. At high speed aerodynamic drag kills mileage, so the ideal speed is somewhere in between - generally in the mid forties.

    With a slight uphill the ICE still has plenty of power. As the grade increases, the ICE will need to work harder. As it approaches wide open throttle the efficiency drops off, so on a very steep hill speed may need to be lower.

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    I think the best efficiency comes with dynamic driving. You should plan ahead. So, if you see a hill, maybe gently increase your speed by a few mph. I usually try to speed up by 5-10, depending on conditions. This way, it will be easier for you to climb the hill and you won't have to hit the gas so hard while your actually doing the climbing to maintain speed. Then you can pretty much coast once you've reached the top.
     
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    Climbing a hill is not easier at higher speed. If you mean "taking a run at the hill" that is also not efficient unless it's a very short hill. If you want proof, try the interstates that cross the rockies. You will find you get your -worst- mileage climbing those hills (mountain pass) at interstate speeds!

    I find amazing mileage is possible in spite of very steep grades if you can keep your speed in the 70-85 km/hr or 43-50 MPH range. For example, the "Duffy Lake" portion of highway 99 in British Columbia. Up to 17% grades, limit of 60 to 80 km/hr, up and down all the time with sharp corners (30 to 50 km/hr recommended on them depending on the corner). Pearl does much better on this road than the Coacahalla, which is a high speed "interstate type" highway with no sharp corners and grades limited to about 6%.
     
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    Ya I think he was referring to shorter hills where you essentially decelerate while keeping the RPM's in the sweet spot.
     
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    Yes, that's basically what I meant. I'm just talking about gaining some extra momentum to help get you over at decent speed.