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New to the Prius...question or two

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by CNC_guy, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. CNC_guy

    CNC_guy New Member

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    Hello all. Here is my Prius story. My wife took a new job requiring her to drive 12o miles round-trip everyday. We casually starting looking for a used economical vehicle for her to drive and she ran across a 2004 Prius (no idea what package....it has factory fog lights) with 80K miles at a Chevrolet dealership where we've bought several vehicles and her uncle is the sales manager. We live in a small town where everyone just about knows everyone. An older gentleman, (aren't all trade ins by older people) that bought the car new decided to trade it in because the MFD had quit working. The dealership was not going to fix the MFD and was selling the car as-is. As-is is something that I don't let bother me usually and with this car, it had full service records from the Toyota dealership in the next town. In this case, the older gentleman part is true because I remember when he bought the car and I had seen him driving the car several times. I googled the MFD problem which led me here which led me to autobeyours.com. Long story short, after never giving a Prius a second thought, we ended up buying it for 7K on the road.

    A little background on me....I've ALWAYS been a truck guy. If you had told me a year ago that I would own a Prius, I would have told you that you are nuts. If you had told me I would not only own one, but that I would also love it and try to figure out how to get it out of my wife's hands I would have said you need to be committed to an institution. This is our go-to car now when we go somewhere as a family and our other 2 vehicles sit in the garage.

    Since buying the car, I sent the MFD to be fixed. It worked for almost 90 days and then quit again. Autobeyours.com said to send it back no questions asked and have since repaired it again and it's still working. I've also replaced the cabin filter and tires.

    I got the recall on the inverter pump and decided that when I took the car to the dealership that I would ask for their records on the car to see when the 12v battery had been replaced. There was everything from windshield wipers to dome lamps on there but no battery. The service guy said the previous owner brought the car there for everything and if the battery had been replaced it would have been done there. The battery showed no problems but I decided to install the Optima that I read about on this site.

    Now, while at the dealer, I asked them to change the oil, the transmission fluid and transaxle oil and they looked at me like I had asked them to give me a million dollars. They wouldn't let me talk to a tech, rather they were the go between he and I and he basically said I was misinformed about changing the fluids and it would be a waste of money. They would not perform the service. They did change the oil but over-filled it by 1/4 inch over the top indicator. I called them and they said not to worry, "it has a shut off if it's too full". Any confidence in them was killed at that point.

    As far as the repaired screen, have any of you had any experience with these? Could I be looking at a failure at anytime or do they seem decently reliable?

    The car has 94K on it and I would really like to change the fluids. Is this something a regular mechanic can do or is this one of those tricky things easily messed up? The next closest Toyota dealer is 2hrs away.
     
  2. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    That vintage of Prius had a bad solder connection on the MFD boards. Once it is fixed it is usually good.

    As for changing fluids, oil and transmission are done just like any other car. Just make sure to use the proper Toyota transmission fluid, as the motor generators can be damaged by the wrong stuff.

    Brakes are a different story. If you need to do a full bleed on the brakes, the proper procedure is to use a Toyota Techstream scanner to sequence the valves. Some people have done brake work without one, but you must be careful to not introduce air high into the system.

    Tom
     
  3. usnavystgc

    usnavystgc Die Hard DIYer and Ebike enthusiast.

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    Just to ease your mind. These cars are not hard to work on. I do all the maintenance and repairs on both of mine and I find it as simple if not simpler than most cars. I have found I'm a lot like the Maytag repairman (not a lot to do). The biggest thing I see is fear. People are afraid to work on them. My advice to anyone is "don't be afraid". I have found this to be an excellent forum and nearly every problem and maintenance procedure has been documented. I use to think the Ford Mustang had the most info available on the web but now, I'm convinced that the Gen II Prius is better supported. Have fun with it and if you have any questions, post them here (after a search of course).

    Phil
     
  4. ksstathead

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    You refer to transmission fluid and transaxle oil, but these are one and the same. There is no transmission in the traditional sense, just the transaxle with its planetary gearset and two motor-generators. It is just a drain and fill and is documented here.
     
  5. AllenZ

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    I got my 2004 two years ago at 110K miles. So far at 163K not any problem, just oil change.
     
  6. CNC_guy

    CNC_guy New Member

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    Thanks for the replies. In my perusing this site I had seen transaxle fluid and transmission fluid....hadn't thought about it being the same thing.

    This site has been very helpful and to be honest, I probably wouldn't have bought the car had I not come here first and looked around for few hours.
     
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  7. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

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    ATF (Automatic Transmission Fluid) was already named decades ago, Toyota uses it in the transaxle (Transmission and Differential in one)

    Transaxle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  8. bogeybob513

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    My 2006 requires changing the Transmission fluid at 60K.
     
  9. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    The published maintenance schedule for the 2006 Prius calls for changing the transmission fluid at 100,000 miles, not 60,000. The recommendation from many on this site is to change at 60,000. Given the analysis data and the cost of the transaxel, I support 60,000 miles.

    Tom