EV Miles estimate after Full Charge LOW

Nice job. While a production BEV or EREV can easily beat it, I don't look it as competition between the cars, just a race to get off oil, and your doing very good and in the upper 1% for sure. (Though I do like to keep the facts correct).

Now that is very impressive. While the leaf set a reverse speed record for any production car, I don't think they went anywhere near 15miles.

 

of course! safety first

 

Yeah I dont consider bev in our class either. Very different breed. If I want to drive in town only for the rest of my life id purchase one of the current bev available. However I take a lot of road trips and I want the option of excellent fuel economy (as well as the option to continue moving) once the batteries have been expended. And this car does a phenomenal job at that!

I just took a day trip to Rochester yesterday. I dont have the exact stats because I didnt record them but Im pretty sure I finished with about 200 miles and 66 mpg. I charged at both ends and I waited till the tail end of each trip to use up EV. I was hoping for better but I honestly didnt try. I drove 70 and used AC the whole way.

 

Oh and ps!!
I got a flat tire!!! As I pulled out of the driveway in rochester, somehow a branch with a gigantic 3" thorn ended up in my sidewall!!!! There werent even any thorn bushes or trees around!!! Plus, it was 8pm on a Saturday night!

I read that it costs $180 to replace that stupid foam in the back so I called a Sunoco down the road. LUCKILY, they were open. They were willing to plug the tire as long as I acknowledged that it wasnt the best idea.

Which reminds me, for those who have locking lug nuts, do you have a tool for those? If so where is it? I couldnt find mine....

Moral of the story, have AAA or carry a spare on long trips. My car with 300 some odd miles now has a plug in the front right tire and I was almost stranded.

 

major bummer, must've fallen off a landscape truck or something.

 

Perhaps this was already answered, but I often listen to my radio while using Chargepoint at the local shopping center. In accessory mode, NOT ready.

 

You can buy your own "plug kit" which is what I did. Then you can plug and pump (and if needed goo).
They are very small and not too hard to use but do need an inflator .. which, of course, the PiP has.

 

I read in another thread that you cannot use the compressor they provide without using the goo. Is that true?

 

I read that too, I'll assume that's true, so I have my own compressor anyway.

 

Dont forget you have 5 years of whatever it is Toyota offers that is like AAA.. Toyota Roadside Assistance or whatever.

I've said it before, but I agree with Dr.I.. get your own plug kit and watch a YouTube video on how to use it.

And although I havent looked at the compressor that comes with the car.. I have also read that it only works with the can of goop attached. But what if the can of goop was empty? It should still work right? If I recall, the compressor has the fitting that attaches to the goop and the goop attaches to the tire. I'd just empty the can before using it to pump up the tire with my own plug job, if that's the case.

 

I'm having a similar experience to Bill3888. My 3 week old base model Plug-In now shows that it is "fully charged" with around 10.5 miles.The first few times I charged it was 12-13 miles, and it's been steadily dropping since then. I'm driving mostly in EV mode, but the range I get is about what the estimate predicts it will be (or less)--9-10 miles. So, like Bill3888, I would like to know why, when the indicator shows that the car is fully charged, it now says around 10 miles, rather than the advertised 13-14? For background, I've had a Prius since 2005, know most of the hypermiling tricks, don't use the a/c (we live in Portland), accelerate like an old lady, and so on. We didn't buy the car to save money, but the difference between 9 and 13 miles is significant (my commute is around 9 miles each way). I'll call my dealer tomorrow to see if they'll check the batteries, but if anyone else has insight into this situation, I'd appreciate hearing it.

 

Read the thread before you post. Its been explained.

 

If you havent already done so, read through this thread. Its been explained by many people here.

But to summarize, its just an estimate. Just like your "miles remaining" on your tank of gas or the "distance to empty" is just an estimate. Its based on your past/recent driving pattern/history. If you're truly concerned, you need to figure out if your maximum range on a full charge is decreasing. Get a full charge, find a long road with no stop signs or traffic lights and just drive. To my knowledge, no one has yet demonstrated any loss of range.

 

Did you guys read what Portland Pip said? He explicitly states is is getting about the actual range that is being predicted (i.e. it was 12 and is now 9-10). So its not just because its an estimate?


Portland PiP -- talking to your dealer and make sure you explain the actual range, not just the estimate has dropped. Others here had to escalate it to TMC and even then its not clear what happend. Maybe most important is to get it on record with strong measurements (ask for a copy of the detailed battery report.. I presume Toyota can produce one like GM or Nissan that includes measurements of cell balance and capacity). You might also want to invest a few bucks to get an OBDII device so you can track the actual battery SOC and see if it is being impacted or maybe not fully charging.

 

My bad then.. I did not realize it was goo only. I guess on the first use you can use it up then get a spare but not replace it. (THe Volt compressor has a switche for goo-no-goo (and separate output hoses.) Heck I use it frequently to inflate my tires (even my bike tiers). Toyota made a poor choice if they did not make it so you could use it for other things. For the price of goo, I'd just invest in a dual-use model like
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which is alot like mine.

 

Over the last three months I have been using more HV mode and on longer trips saving more EV charge/ upon reaching close to my destination, off the freeway I attempt to use all of the EV charge. I believe this is what has increased my wall charges up to 15 miles. So do not hesitate to use HV from time to time.

 

it's more than likely the type of commute you have. if you can give us a detailed breakdown of elevation changes, stop and goes, mph, etc. that would help determine if the car is okay. or if you want to experiment, find a 15 mile or so flat route with few stops and 30 mph average, drive there in hv with a full charge, hit your trip b, put it in ev, note your range estimate and see how far you can go.

 

What's important is that some objective data is needed in order to determine the health of the battery. Not the range indicator - and to an extent, not even the actual mileage on EV. Simply taking your car to the dealer and say that you're not getting 13-14 miles on a charge won't have much impact there.

It's a battery. So there is a way to measure its functions. For example, if you went to an Apple Store complaining that your battery no longer ran the computer for 6 hours like it used to, they would hook up your computer and read out the state of charge, the number of cycles, relative capacity, peak temps, and lots of other measurements. If indeed your battery is judged to be operating far below the level it should be operating, they'd replace it. If not, they wouldn't. But the decision wouldn't be based on a subjective analysis that "it doesn't run my computer for 6 hours anymore like it used to…"

I have to believe that Toyota can do the same thing.

 

Mine has gone from 11.4 to 9.1 on the display, right after charging is complete. The car is about three weeks old now, with just under 1000 miles on odometer. I don't find the estimate is particulary accurate.

 

A/C is on, turn it off and your EV wil jump back up to 11.6

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