Modify PiP to add range

Well then, hypermiling it should be easy. If you were closer I would trade you cars for a week to run some tests.

 

if YOU were closer, i would trade cars with YOU. although, why anyone would leave cali to come out to the frozen tundra, i have no idea. the question is, is it efficient to run the motor, batteries, connectors etc. upto a higher speed and glide back down as we do with the ice? frankly, i'm surprised we haven't heard more about this, especially from japan.

 

With careful, conservative driving it is possible to get 18 miles (ROUND TRIP) in EV mode. I did not say ONE WAY, because that depends on elevation change and perhaps other factors.

My commute to work is 17.7 miles round trip and I usually have about 0.5-1.0 left in the EV range. To be fair, my commute is thru back roads with average speed of ~30mph, with three stop lights on the way. This is only on the days when weather is good and I don't have to use any A/C.

 

i hear you. mine is 15 miles and i usually get home wit 2-3 left. same thing, mid 20's mph average. i can use a/c at 79 and still pretty much do this. no question 18 is possible. some have gotten over 20 in stop and go bumper to bumper on the highway.

 

I think the main point with "aggressive" driving is that you have make sure you don't end up going any faster when driving aggressively than when not. Driving "aggressively" is just changing how quickly you reach the same target speed, and the claim is that it does not have a whole lot of impact on range. I agree that slowing down and speeding up a lot would hurt range, due to conversion losses.

 

driving aggressively does have some impact on range. and elevation does as well. and pip2012, genIII glide is definitely more touchy than genII, despite what F8L says.

 

Gliding is more difficult in the GenIII but you get used to it once you figure out what to look for. Now I can hypermile my GenIII much better than my GenII. Just make the HSI bar disappear or have it in the first 1/4 of the EV section and you're gliding (or warp stealth).

 

why is it not using battery upto the first 1/4 of ev?

 

It is but just barely and not enough for acceleration. It's just enough energy to cancel out regenerative braking and the drag associated with that. The closer you can come to making the HSI bar disappear the less energy you will use but even up to that 1/4 mark you are still using very little. With practice you won't have to hold it that high. It helps to keep the car in Eco Mode and not wear a right shoe if you need more sensitivity.

 

intersting, so it's not as difficult as i thought. i will try my ballet slippers.

 

Pictures!

 

I use neutral all the time. What are peoples opinions of using neutral compared to trying to make the bar disappear?

For me, its so much easier to put it in neutral. One thing to be sure of though, if the ice is running, make sure you leave it in D otherwise you are wasting power. The ice sends power to the battery when it is running but not if your in neutral.

 

Yes, as a matter of fact I did check around a little on this and posted this a few weeks ago:
Plug-In Supply Taking on the PiP | PriusChat

 

The pink ones!

 

use your imaginations.