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Toyota Says Electric RAV4 Will Set Pace For Mileage Per Charge

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by RRxing, Aug 5, 2012.

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  1. austingreen

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    You asked when the S would have the cargo area of the Rav 4, I answered. If you think tesla can't design a drive train for themselves, why would toyota buy it? Use at least some of that anti-american brain of yours. Read some some of the reviews of the tesla S, if you think Tesla does not know how to put a car together.

    What in the world are you talking about. Have you been smoking crack. The RAV 4 is built in north america. The gasoline version cost around $25K. They did add a couple of items like led running lights and an entune system, but most of the interior is the hard plastic of the base rav 4. Toyota then used gliders with out the motor, transmission, emissions, then modified it to replace functionality with tesla parts. This is the battery, motor, inverter, transmission, regen braking, smooth underside of the car. That seems like a joint venture, in fact when you look at the contract the tesla parts cost toyota more than 1/2 the retail price. If you are going to insult the tesla parts but praise the RAV4 ev, you are certainly missing a lot. From the rumors telsa also was responsible for changing some of the suspension tuning. If you look at the time to market, engineering the changes was to tesla's schedule, not toyota's.

    Why do you think toyota picked them as a partner on this car?

    If you think it is a good price y0u should buy one and import it to your country. I'm sure you will be very happy with it. When toyota announced the price and low sales estimates, Tesla's stock went down. Most people in america call this a compliance car. You can't buy one except in a limited number of California cities. Toyota marketing it for range, a weakness of electric vehicles shows that they are not serious about even trying to sell the car.

    The Tesla X has been demoed and most of the specifications are well known. The big question is whether people want to buy a pure electric SUV. Toyota seems to be saying in its latest press release, they are hoping it doesn't sell.
     
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    It looks to me more like a compliance vehicle but are hedging their bets. If other companies start selling EVs, then they will have some experience. I got bad feelings from the press release, and the reviews about Toyota not up scaling the interior of the car. The latest PR seems to say toyota is going to make the minimum they need to, to satisfy CARB requirements.

    The focus EV is also a compliance vehicle. Ford is trying to put its best foot forward and rolling it out to other states.
     
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    Will the interior develop rattles like the Prius. That would be awesome. Can't wait to test drive one here.
     
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    Here's one that was on kinda spotted in the wild just the other day . . . at a "Tesla" event:



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    CleanMPG Previews the 2012 Toyota RAV4 EV - CleanMPG Forums
     
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    Nice car, but in some ways irrelevant, if not most ways. It's a compliance vehicle that Toyota is selling at a loss in tiny numbers, so for it to claim such and such needs to be qualified in light of this fact. I find the Tesla S a far more impressive feat if they're able to sell it at an actual profit.

    BTW, given that this is running on essentially a Tesla S power train I think it impossible not to admit that Tesla has done a damned impressive thing here, coming from nothing several years ago (company founded in 2003!) to one of its power trains underpinning a vehicle from a dominating brand like Toyota.
     
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    It just occurred to me that Toyota didn't do anything here. They gave Tesla the Rav4 chassis, and that seems about it. Lotus didn't get credit for making the Roadster.
     
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