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Improving Refrigerator Efficiency: A Thought

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by SageBrush, Oct 21, 2012.

  1. SageBrush

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    Although I am not a real science person, I spend a fair amount of time musing about energy efficiency. Mostly I just whine at the amazing lack of attempts to take advantage of local climate in design. Houses that are sited to take advantage of the sun seems like such a no brainer.

    Anyway..
    How much more efficient can a fridge be, using current knowledge and tech and not pricing it out of the current TCO consumers are used to ? I don't know, but I'm pretty sure my local climate supports a fridge that would consume about 1/3rd the energy of the one I have now, with three simple modifications: use of outside air, a cold sink, and a smart thermostat. It would work like this:

    the fridge would work at night when the outside air was coolest, and draw the fridge down to 1C.
    During the day the fridge would be allowed to heat up to 5C before it turned on.

    The energy savings comes from using cool outside air rather than conditioned inside air. I live in a 4 season high desert climate characterized by sunny days and cool evenings. The average annual low daily temperature is 42F = 5C. My temperature in the kitchen is about 70F = 21C. Since the internal fridge temp will average 2.5C

    Playing loose with Newton's law of cooling and using averages (a so so approximation I think,) cooling costs will be as low as 2.5/18.5 = 13.5% of the current situation. Figuring that the fridge will have to work at least some of the time during the day, I guesstimate an overall 2/3rds energy savings.

    All that is really required, is a design phase that puts the fridge proximate to an exterior wall.
     
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    Corwyn Energy Curmudgeon

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    Yes that would work, but it is tricky.

    You can do pretty well with just a chest freezer and a temperature controller. See: Chest fridge for example which runs on 0.1 kWh per day.
     
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    Someplace a few years ago I saw some pretty through analysis of that scheme. If you are in an AC cooled house, the savings are even better because a regular fridge dumps heat into the cooled house and you have to pay to have the house AC remove the heat.

    If the fridge had a large mass of the right PCM inside it, you could most likely eliminate any daytime running.

    However, if you take look at the simple solution like Corwyn mentioned in the post above mine, it makes the complex more thermally efficient solutions not worth chasing except for the fun of it.

    Many years ago a friend that lived on his sail boat built his own chest type fridge with 2 or 3 inches of high quality foam insulation and it ran on practically nothing.
     
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    Thanks for the link Corwyn -- very nice. I'm not convinced how easy it is to use though; I suspect the inventor has a pretty good spatial memory :)

    Why is my idea tricky to implement ?
     
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    Ergonomics: top-load washer, stand-up freezer, stand-up fridge. (Stand-up fridges with small freezer compartments have them on the top. Larger freezer compartments are on the bottom).
    Energy/resource Efficiency: front-load washer, chest freezer, chest fridge.
    Space efficiency: front-load washer, stand-up freezer, stand-up fridge.

    It's pretty easy to see why usage patterns are as they are in different places.

    Well, one problem I can see is that you're pre-cooling the fridge. It's a bit like going from cruise control to DWL in an automatic, which relies heavily on prediction to handle the variation efficiently.
     
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    Should be Energy/resouce efficiency: Horizontal axis washer. Staber makes a top load, horizontal axis washer. It works very well.
     
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    I was talking with a heating equipment rep the other day, and he was singing the praises of outdoor temperature sensors. I asked him why he didn't just hook up the equipment to the internet and get a 2 day weather forecast, and he looked at me as if I had invented e=mc^2. Seemed pretty obvious to me.
     
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    seems to me an out door vent that would let you pul in cold air and exhaust warm air that could adjust seasonally would be a fairly efficient option.
     
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    The first part is easy. Set the fridge as cold as possible, and put it on a timer. You'll need a good thermometer, and maybe a flashlight, to keep an eye on things during the day.;) The problem I see with the pulse and coast idea you are working with is for food quality. There spots in our fridge where things might freeze. P&Cing would make it more likely to happen. While freezing and thawing of food in a fridge won't spoil it, it could have negative affects on taste and texture. Ever freeze cream cheese? Once thawed, it still has a crumbly texture from the freezing.

    Actually using outside air would entail moving the condenser coils to the outside, like a central air conditioner. No reason why it couldn't work. I remember a site for heat pump water heaters that did that with the other side of the coils so they could be placed on the roof. It just increases cost of the unit, and likely means professional installation. People want to change kitchens too often for that, or we could just tie the fridge into the AC or heat pump of the home.

    If you were willing to have part of the fridge on the outside, one of the real high efficiency, off the grid, fridge brands offered solar power that, I guess, worked like a propane fridge.

    Some of the vertical ones have caught up. Health issues and room layout meant a front load wouldn't work for us. I knew there were top load horizontal models. They just aren't on the floor in most stores.

    Aside: my coworker was just wondering how the D got into fridge and why we don't write frig this week.
    And it appaers frig is perfectability acceptable spelling, unlike that perfect mess I tried there.
     
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    don't frig with the spelling.:cool:
     
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    Refrigeration systems are typically designed to 18-20 hours per day to meet expected load requirements. Most of the load in a home refrigerator is from opening the door. The cold air spills out...which is why a chest system is more efficient, and why the compressor doesn't turn on as much at night. Putting the condensing unit outside would increase the cost far beyond any possible savings, and might not result in any electrical savings at all. Running a refrigerator at it's coldest setting will probably ice up the coil, as the system is designed to defrost during the off cycles. Keeping the condenser coils clean is the best way to minimize electrical usage.
     
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    Could you not just close their space, and draw air from the outside through a duct ?
     
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    My refrigerator is a bottom freezer, vertical type rated by EPA @ 404 kwh/year. When I had it hooked up to a kill-a-watt, IIRC, about 2/3rds of the daily energy was consumed during the day and 1/3 at night. However, all the door openings happen during the day, and heat losses through the walls are 24 hours a day. That implies, at least for my home, that opening the door is responsible for about 1/3 of total energy.

    I find it amusing that people are relating the idea to P&G :)
    In one sense it is true, if the interior is cooled down to a lower temperature that the eventual highest temp during the day; but as I think Fuzzy wrote above, the extra cooling work at night can be stored in a high heat capacity reservoir that minimizes temperature swings. Certainly the swings have to be within the range that does not adversely affect the stored food.
     
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    ....I like this chest idea too. Can you buy one with this kind of efficiency?
    Hybrid approach could be to have one of these in garage or basement and smaller unit in kitchen.
     
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    Yes, but now you have a hole in your heating envelope (read: insulation), and a duct and the space surrounding your fridge containing cold outside air in your living space. So insulate all that you say? By the time you are done you will have done basically the same thing as moving the coils outside.
     
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    If I understand correctly, my fridge's exterior coils are at the bottom, and a fan exhausts air to the back so that the bottom air temp is ~ ambient. Right ?

    My suggestion is to enclose the coils at the bottom, and draw outside air to them with the same fan. Does that make sense ? I see what you mean, that this is the equivalent of 'externalizing' the coils except that they will not be exposed to the elements outside -- just the temperature.
     
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    Probably. Coils might be on the back.

    Can you draw a picture of what you want? Label everything with its temperature and insulation value, and you (or we) can figure out where heat is going, and how much. All those new surfaces are opportunities for heat loss, and water infiltration and other unpleasant things.
     
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    Unfortunately, a btu is a btu. If you "store up" btu's, you still have to buy them first, and it still takes the same amount to cool the box. Even putting the condensing unit outside would only help during cold weather. In the summer, you would pay it all back with higher head pressures. Water cooling the compressor is the most efficient way to keep electrical costs down if the water cost doesn't offset the savings.
     
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    Do commercial refrigeration installations do this? If so, or if not, you have some guidance. If this does not appear worthwhile for (e.g.) 2000 cubic feet, it is unlikely to be useful for 20 cubic feet. And to the contrary, whatever (e.g.) grocery stores do, that's likely to be the best one can do, all things considered.
     
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    Read my OP; the input ambient vs outside average temperatures are stated.