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"P" abnormality in 2008 prius

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by jlstough, Nov 11, 2012.

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    I have a 2008 toyora prius with 75423mi on it, was purchased with 70000mi two or three months ago. I have had no problems with this vehicle until recently. Being a prius newbie, I decided to ask here. When sitting parked on a slight slope earlier with the car running, radio running, and phone plugged in for an extended amount of time, I received an error on my display stating smething along the lines of "there is an abnormality with the p transmission mechanism, please part the car on a flat surface and engage the parking break completely" paired with a red triangle on the dash. I immediately moved the car to flat ground and engaged the parking break. The car turns one, shifts fine, and acts just as normal as prior. Is there anything I should be worried about? The car is still under toyota warrenty and is due an oil change now. Any clue what the cause of this was and if it will be reoccuring? Thanks in advance.
     
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    I don't have the tool required to test the volts. Could I have the dealer check it for me when I take it in for an oil change? I read that the dealer sometimes uses lower voltage readers or something along those lines? Our car rarely has the chance to sit for a few hours as my husband drives it too and from work throughout the week and weekends.
     
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    You don't need a tool/volt-ohm meter. It's built into the car via the MFD... although we're not sure how accurate the voltage is on everyone's car.

    We've found it useless to have the dealer "test" 12 volt batteries on the Prius. See Prius beeps after being turned off, then won't start | Page 2 | PriusChat. Can't you let it sit overnight and then run the test?
     
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    Ah, I see. I misread that, sorry. And I suppose we could, or try it one weekend while we are just sitting around, its just that my husband is in the army and leaves for work very early in the morning. I will show him this and try to test it. Thank you for your time and response, I will post the levels when we get them.
     
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    With the 12v battery being almost 5 years old, it would be a reasonable preventive measure to change it anyway. Almost time for key fob batteries as well.
     
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    I'll second that.
     
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    Hi jlstough. Are you sure that the Prius was "running" (ready mode) while you were parked? In ready mode it should keep the 12V battery charged from the DC-DC converter, and start/stop the engine as needed to maintain overall charge (on the big 200V battery).

    Is it possible that you were instead just in "accessory" mode when this occurred? It would make what then happened not at all unlikely or unusual.
     
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    I agree that the battery is probably due changing as I doubt it has been changed since the car was produced. I have yet to run the test, but I appreciate all the responses. The car was probably in accessory mode at the time. I had it switching between the two over time so as to prevent running out of gas and running down the battery.
     
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    Yeah that would make sense. When it's in ready mode you'll see the (main) battery losing charge on the energy monitor display, and when it gets low the engine will automatically come on and charge it (and the cycle repeats). This however does no harm to the main battery as it's very much designed for these cycles, and the amount of gasoline used is very small (probably less than 20 cents worth per hour).

    When you're in accessory mode then the main battery is not losing charge, but the 12V battery definitely is. Unfortunately the 12V battery doesn't handle deep discharge very well and is pretty easily to ruined by doing this too often. The bottom line is that you're much better off to let it waste a few cents worth of gas in ready mode compared to the few hundred dollars that the new 12V battery can cost. Personally I only use accessory mode if I'm sitting for less than 10 minutes. You could definitely go a lot longer if you knew for certain that the 12V battery was in top condition, but if at all uncertain then the 10 min limit seems to be a safe option. :)
     
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    I havent quite gotten the hang of owning a prius, so its really good to get this information, I really appreciate all of your input. I was unsure of whether keeping the car running in ready mode for too long was detrimental or not, so know that I know that its not really I will refrain from using accessory mode when idle. How much do knew batteries general run for the prius? We are taking the car in tomorrow to have the oil changed. Any other maintanace tips you guys have? I know our fluids (engine coolant and some other coolant) are running low. Can I purchase these myself and refill or should we visit the dealership and have them handle it?
     
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    If the engine coolant is running low check the water pump on the engine, look for pink deposits inside the pulley and in bad cases a line of deposit on the underside of the hood. If you can see any deposit the pump needs changing and the fluid replacing.

    Use only Toyota SLLC coolant (super long life coolant) lasts for 120,000 miles, same coolant in the inverter tank in the center of the engine bay. Normally these do not need topping up. If the pump needs changing it is only the same job as any other car nothing special about it apart from getting all the air out of the system this can take time.
     
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    If the brake fluid is down from full but is above the low mark do not top it up or take the top off the container as this lets in moisture and dirt contaminating the fluid.

    As the brake pads wear "and they wear very slowly on the Prius" the wear is taken up by the fluid and when the pads are replaced the fluid displaced will refill the container.

    With normal driving expect between 100,000 to 250,000 miles to a set of brake pads.
     
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    Ditto the advice about leaving the car running, shifted to Park with the parking brake set. Listening to the radio would take days or weeks or burn a tank of gas, but it will kill the poor little 12V battery within a couple hours.

    If you don't have an Owner's Manual for 2008 absolutely buy one and read it. It's full of info you need to know. Order a copy while you're at the dealer.

    If you don't have the Scheduled Maintenance Guide (a Toyota document, not some dealer's), see here:
    Toyota Parts and Service