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2001 Kia to 2010 Prius 2 with similar mileage, quick!

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by bharjala, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. bharjala

    bharjala New Member

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    Hey all! I'm new here, have been reading around for a while but IMO you can only really know what you're dealing with in a Prius once you have it in your possession for a while... I'm somewhat new to car-buying, moved to Portland, OR from the UP, MI this summer and just realized that my Kia is really on it's last leg. Maybe not, but I can't handle the stress of fixing a car as much anymore (95K miles, 2001) so decided to work on selling it.

    My husband and I recently went to a dealership up in Vancouver to compare the Ford Fiesta, Ford Focus, and Prius, and were really sold on the Prius--so much that before we knew it, we had agreed to buy the car. We could only afford low monthly payments, I have a thing against *new* new cars (but I like SOME miles), but I also really wanted a Prius. I want a car that can go the distance, can stand up to my road trips (I love to see new places ALL the time), as well as my city driving (stop, go, stop, go... Nike anyone?).

    So we picked up this 2010 Prius 2 for $14,988, with $91K miles on it. We know very little about it cause we didn't have the right questions with us (we're young and stupid), but got one heck of a test drive (Longview, WA to Vancouver in a rain/wind storm) and it's from a big dealership in the Costco program. We're having a separate inspection by the eLemonators tomorrow morning. (The car is in contingency)

    Questions... We're so clueless that just tonight, on our way back, we noticed a battery on the screen that went down with the defrost on. We thought that, perhaps, that was the really expensive battery pack going bad as soon as we got the car (cars do that, right?) and couldn't even verbalize what we were talking about to get the right answer out of Google search about it. What is the battery thing (traction battery?) and why does it go down with the cabin stuff on? I'm sure the answer is somewhere else, but please fill me in!

    Is a switch from a 2001 Kia Optima with 95K on it (big issues being fixed, but more to come I'm sure) to a 2010 Prius 2 with 91K on it from Washington/Oregon (no rust, clean and shiny) an upgrade? Was it a good idea?

    Is there some obvious way to tell if the big battery pack is going to quit on us any time soon? How do I make the reverse beeping stop? Will rear visibility (seeing behind me, --no Nav or camera-- around me) get better over time, or, do people get used to it?

    Moving from an older car in which I could see straight through, all around the car with few blind spots (no forward car tilt, no fancy skinny windows) to this new thing is scary. Driving at night (tonight) in the rain was terrible. Water droplets on every surface including the side windows and side mirror made it impossible to even see... anything!

    My husband had a question about transmission fluid, but I'm not sure what it was... Sorry for the rambling!
     
  2. cwerdna

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    The traction battery is in the back hatch area. It's a large silver box. See Third Generation. You bought the car but yet didn't get it inspected first?

    Hopefully the car was bought, registered and operated in OR or other CARB (California Air Resources Board) emission states so that you get the 10 year/150K mile HV (traction) battery warranty (it's 8 years/100K mile for the rest of the US). See your warranty booklet for details. Or, you can select 2010 Prius in upper right of Toyota Online Owners Manuals and Technical Manuals and get the warranty booklet.

    HV battery will go down from "idling", creeping along, driving along w/engine off and more rapidly when the AC compressor is on (like when in defrost mode and very quickly in the summer w/AC on high).

    Engine will start up and run to keep it charged up, as long as you don't stay in neutral. In fact, since you're new, there's currently NO reason to use neutral other than going thru car washes where you're towed thru. Don't use it otherwise! All positions (P, R, D and B) are all fine in terms of the engine starting up to keep the traction battery charged.

    You should adjust your mirrors like Avoiding The Blind Spot | Car Talk to reduce blind spots. It will take a bit to get used to but it's great!

    If the transmission fluid (Toyota ATF-WS ONLY) has never been changed, I'd get it changed now.

    The reverse beep can be changed along w/other settings. See Things that can be customized | PriusChat. The dealer (or someone) with Toyota Techstream can do it. Otherwise, you'll need something that can send the proper messages over the CAN bus (via OBD2 port) like ScanGaugeII : Linear Logic - Home of the ScanGauge to do it. It's too bad it sounds like you already bought it. Otherwise, you could make it a condition of purchase (e.g. we'll only buy if it you change the reverse beep setting).
     
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    Thanks for the response! I know, we were a bit blindsided and went with it.

    A big part of it was getting the car in our possession in order to get it inspected down in Hillsboro, drive it to work to make sure it felt right, all that. I think we're doing it now, we looked at every little thing and it's pretty crispy. I was also told that, with the year and the miles, I could expect that it was primarily a road vehicle. Driving from Vancouver to Longview or other places everyday racks up the miles, 30k/yr. And I was also told that high road miles is okay, and a good indication that it didn't rack up those miles on the battery but on the engine, which is really clean as well. Does that sound right?

    I got an inspection this morning, day 1 of my contingency period, and all was clear, clean. No wrecks, and is very clean and very sharp. How do I find out if the transmission fluid has been changed? Would it be on a car report like Car Fax? We have the carfax, with regular maintenance at the dealership. Including the maintenance at 89,900 miles (before the 90k). Would they check the transmission fluid then?

    The car has only been driven in Washington state, which I believe is a CARB.

    I don't hate the backwards beep, it actually comes in handy, not knowing what position I'm in since I'm not holding a shifter all the time. Also, for visibility, it was fine and clear today (daylight). It might just be a Portland rain and night thing (the not being able to see thing!).

    Thank you so much for explaining the traction battery! There's a lot of booklets and even a DVD for the car--I'd best get reading!
     
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    Use Rain X on all the glass and mirrors and you will never have a visibility issue in the rain again.

    Mike :)

    Mobile on my Asus
     
  5. cwerdna

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    It may not show up on carfax. You could try checking up on the car by registering at Toyota Owners Official Website: Service Coupons, Owners Manuals, Service Scheduling and More.

    Some dealers for some odd reason (I've run into this) don't want to change the transaxle fluid and make claims that it's "lifetime" fluid. :rolleyes: I'd change ASAP if it hasn't been changed before.
     
  6. bharjala

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    Oh! Also, in December I'm going to be out of town for a week. Will the car be fine to sit without being started everyday? Does it need to be in a warm place? Will the battery die?
     
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    Welcome to the Forums. You could set yourself up on toyota.com/owners and plug in the VIN to see what was done to the car. Your Toyota Dealer could also check the vehicle maintenance history. If you can not confirm that the Transmission fluid has been changed, probably get it changed. Make sure the correct Toyota only Fluid is used. This is very important. No substitutions. Unless you can do it yourself, I would have the dealer do it.
     
  8. bharjala

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    Okay, I made an account! Everything's on there -- all of the regular maintenance! Would it say "Changed/Replaced Transmission fluid"? It says "INSPECT AUTOMSTIC TRANSMISSI ON OIL." This is great stuff though, thank you!

    Here's the full write up at 89K miles, the major service as per factory maintenance:
    PERFORM MAJOR SERVICE AS PER FAC TORY RECOMENDATIONS ~|~REPLACE ENGINE OIL AND OEM FI LTER. INSPECT AND ADJUST WASHER ~|~INSPECT EXHAUST PIPES,MUFFLER S,& HANGARS FOR CRACKS,DETERIORA TION,DAMAGE, & LEAKAGE. CHECK SU SPENSION & STEERING LINKAGEBALL JOINTS FOR LOOSENING & DAMAGE. I NSPECT ALL DUST COVERSFOR DETERI ORATION & DAMAGE. CHECK DRIVE SH AFT BOOTS & CLAMPSFOR CRACKS, DE TERIORATION, & DAMAGE. IF REQUIR ED, INSPECT DRIVE SHAFT BOLT FOR PROPER TORQUE. CHECK STEERING W HEEL FOREXCESSIVE FREEPLAY. INSP ECT LINKAGE FOR BINDING & DAMAGE .INSPECT RACK & PINION FOR LEAKA GE. INSPECT AUTOMSTIC TRANSMISSI ON OIL. CHECK COMPONENTS FOR LEA KAGE. RE-TIGHTEN SEAT MOUNTING B OLTS & FRONT & REAR SUSPENSION M EMBER RETAINING BOLTSTO SPECIFIE D TORQUE. REPLACE AIR FILTER WIT H TOYOTA OEM FILTER. REPLACE DIF FERENTIAL OIL. REPLACE ENGINE CO OLANT.INSPECTFUEL LINES, CONNECT IONS, FUEL TANK BAND, VAPOR VENT SYSTEMHOSES FOE CORRISION, DAMA GE, CRACKS, & LOOSE OR LEAKING C ONNECTIONS. INSPECT FUEL TANK CA P GASKET FOR CRACKS, DETERIORATI ON & AND DAMAGE. PERFORM AUDIBLE INSPECTION OF VALVECLEARANCE(AT 60,000 - 120,000 MILES)COMPLETE
     
  9. Jin

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    Hey bharjala, you got a pretty good deal there, for a car that is only 2years old with 91k of mileage, it means this car has been on highway all the time, probably less wear and tear than regular city miles. Congratulation on your new car and welcome to priuschat.
     
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    Hey! I actually grew up and lived just south of Portland and use to own a 2002 Kia. I now own a 2012 Prius and I think you made the right switch. That Portland rain can be brutal but like the previous person said Rain-X is the way to go, I bet 90% of people from Oregon and Washington own a bottle because it rains 9 months out of the year there, but that's what makes it so green! Plus you'll fit in well with that Prius because there are a lot of hippie, granola, and earth friendly people; especially in Portland. Make sure you take that Prius of yours to Voodoo Donuts!
     
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    Welcome aboard! I use Rain-X as well and it does a marvelous job... but you need to refresh it fairly often on the windshield (2-3 months).