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1.9% Finance What a Joke

Discussion in 'Prius v Main Forum' started by Ian Draaisma, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Ian Draaisma

    Ian Draaisma New Member

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    I went to Toyota Noosaville today to buy a Prius V financed at 1.9% Here't what happened

    Price of Vehicle RRP $35,990
    Crystal Pearl Paint $425
    Delivery Fee $1895
    Stamp Duty $730
    Registration $353.50
    Third Party $318.80
    Discount $3722.3

    Purchase Price $35990
    Trade $500
    Balance $35490

    All sound good so far

    Payment on Finance 1.9%
    and 50% Baloon

    They Told me that payment would be $515 per month for 48 months
    I figued at this point that they havn't ballooned the loan to %50 but I thought that it would be still all right
    After I signed on condition of approved fiance I asked what the final payment figure would be

    The final ballon payment is $17,745
    I was shocked $515 x 48 months is $24720 plus $$17,745 = $42,465

    huhhh??????
    1.9% interest on $35490 is $1354.50
    Plus they said there would be a $500 charge on the loan
    THis adds to $37,344.50

    This leads to a $5,120.50 difference.

    Has this happened to anyone else and can anyone explain what has happened?

    Regards Ian
     
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    Air_Boss Senior Member

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    Stealership 101 Finance Tactics...
     
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    John H Senior Member

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    A 6 year amortization of $35,490 @ 1.9% is only $522/month. They are trying to rip you off.

    NEVER sign a agreement that locks you into a purchase without knowing exactly what the payment will be.
     
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    They are charging you interest at a rate of approximately 6%. If you legally have a "cooling off" period then take advantage of it and cancel the contact. Make sure you tell them why you are cancelling, because they misled you over the interest rate!
     
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    nothing wrong with trying to make a buck, right ?
     
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    A nearly $2,000 delivery fee? OUCH!
     
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    rjparker Tu Humilde Sirviente

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    If you were in the US instead of Austria, you would have paid $412 a month with terms and balloon as described. Sounds like they are working some extra charges on the monthly.
     
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    Yes Thanks for that. I am really to trusting in Business things and I have a lot to learn. I think I can still make this right?
    Thanks for your help
    Ian
     
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    One lesson learned is that the sales price is one place they might make money but the real money is after you leave the sales guy and start talking to the finance guy, the special services and options upseller, etc.

    One of the reasons I save my money and buy for cash and accept to upselling is just what you experienced. I'd rather wait than be subjected to something that makes me feel dirty when I leave the office.
     
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    I would go to a bank or credit union that makes auto loans, preferably one you have an account with, and take your paperwork. Ask them if everything is legal and why EXACTLY it appears your 1.9% interest rate is not reflected in the payments. Do it quickly and then go to the dealership loaded with ACCURATE information.
     
  11. Ian Draaisma

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    I went and got some legal advice and there is something definitely not right. i will talk to them tomorrow and see if things can be sorted.
    thanks for you help it really does help to have others to chat with
    Ian
     
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    Spoke to them
    Firstly they have charged me $1080 to access the $1.9 loan
    Second they have charged me $3240 for Gap insurance
    And the interest they said is about $3300

    I can cancell the gap insurance
    I can't get out of the charges
    I still can't work out how they get to $3300 interest
    I calculate about $2150 on a car loan of $35290

    I hope I can talk some sense and get this sorted

    Very stressful
    Ian
     
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    rjparker Tu Humilde Sirviente

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    Ok. Here's the deal.

    1. Determine EXACTLY how much was financed. First number reported was obviously not right. Without knowing that then no calculation is going to work.
    2. I took your $35490 and added the $1080 to equal $36570. This might not right, but your car loan did not go down, it went up when they added the $1080.
    3. At $36570, with 1/2 ballon at 48 months, I get $425 a month.
    4. Maybe the 1.9% is not ANNUAL INTEREST RATE but a Periodic Interest Rate that is compounded on itself daily resulting in a much higher Annual Rate.

    However, not knowing the Australian laws, they may be able to calculate or compound interest differently than the US. I would also be disappointed with the "legal" advice you got that could not see the price of the gap insurance and loan origination charges on your paperwork. DO NOT go back to them for advice. Find someone in the lending business (bank, credit union) and ask them. Lawyers often know very little in reality other than their specialty which might be getting someone out of jail or defending a drunk driving arrest or doing wills etc.

    Suggest to the bank or credit union that you will bring the loan to them by getting the "pay-off" balance from the dealer. Hopefully the laws there will allow an early payoff. Here an early payoff is the principal only, not future interest. Maybe this won't help if the bank charges more interest. But it is IMPERATIVE you know the exact numbers financed. If you are not comfortable confronting the dealer when you have the real numbers, bring someone who knows how to get down on them.
     

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