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November 2012 hybrid sales

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by austingreen, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. austingreen

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    From Danny's and USBs numbers here we get a more complete picture

    Prius Family Sales - November 2012 | PriusChat

    Hybrids

    prius liftback 8925
    c-max hybrid 3630
    prius c 3124
    prius v 2690

    Total prius and c-max hybrids 18375 up from 17963 last month.

    prius phv 1766
    leaf 1579
    volt 1519
    c-max energi 1218

    Total mainstream plug ins 6082 down from 6573 last month

    Still waiting for other results. Hybrids + plug ins appear flat from last month with shifting, but remember these numbers are up a great deal from last years numbers
     
  2. austingreen

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    Full numbers for November are now available
    November 2012 Dashboard | Hybrid Cars


     
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    This seems to indicate the C-Max hybrid is taking directly from Prius liftback sales. 8,900 ish is not a good month for the liftback. It's routinely been over 12k just a few months ago.
     
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    At last, hybrids broke 3% of the total market and not just on the back of the Prius Liftback, even though it is still the leader. The second tier are in the $20-30k range, compacts, midsize and wagons. Then come the third tier and subsequent tiers where we start finding +$40k, fuel super-savers, luxury models and the less expensive, less comfy, lessor performing models:
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    0 [tr][th]Model[th]Units[tr][td]Toyota Prius Liftback[td]8925[tr][td]_ 2nd tier[td]____126%[tr][td]Toyota Camry[td]3936[tr][td]Ford C-Max Hybrid[td]3589[tr][td]VW Jetta[td]3319[tr][td]Prius c[td]3124[tr][td]Prius v[td]2690[tr][td]VW Passat[td]2544[tr][td]_ 3d tier[td]____38%[tr][td]Ford Fusion[td]1834[tr][td]Prius PHV[td]1766[tr][td]Hyundai Sonata[td]1589[tr][td]Nissan Leaf[td]1539[tr][td]Chevrolet Volt[td]1519[tr][td]Lexus ES Hybrid[td]1424[tr][td]Lexus CT 200h[td]1264[tr][td]Ford C-MAX Energi[td]1259[tr][td]_ honorable mention[td]____20%[tr][td]Chevy Malibu Hybrid[td]1041[tr][td]Lexus RX400/450h[td]971[tr][td]BMW X5[td]930[tr][td]Mercedes GL320[td]808[tr][td]Tesla Model S[td]800[tr][td]Buick LaCrosse[td]724[tr][td]VW Golf[td]697[tr][td]Kia Optima[td]681[tr][td][td]____23%[tr][td]Mercedes ML320[td]551[tr][td]Honda Civic[td]530[tr][td]Toy. Highlander[td]485[tr][td]Porsche Cayenne[td]423[tr][td]VW Touareg[td]412[tr][td][td]____23%[tr][td]Audi Q7[td]334[tr][td]Linc. MKZ Hybrid[td]282[tr][td]Honda CR-Z[td]244[tr][td]Honda Insight[td]238[tr][td]Buick Regal[td]211[tr][td]VW Beetle[td]209[tr][td]Honda Civic Natural Gas[td]209[tr][td]Audi A3[td]181[tr][td]Mercedes E320[td]179[tr][td]Acura ILX[td]174[tr][td]Ford Focus Electric[td]172[tr][td]GMC Sierra[td]170[tr][td][td]____54%[tr][td]BMW Active Hybrid 3 (335ih)[td]110[tr][td]Porsche Cayenne[td]108[tr][td]BMW ActiveHybrid5 (535ih)[td]97[tr][td]Audi Q5 Hybrid[td]90
    Source: November 2012 Dashboard | Hybrid Cars

    Why is this important? It means we really don't have to waste time chatting about the Chevy Malibu and below because they don't have a significant market presence. They include models that may have a few remarkable attributes but not 'taking over the streets.' They range from niche to fading glory but perhaps not the best use of our time.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    The cars eating into the prius liftback that didn't exist last year are the c-max, prius c, and prius phv, giving buyers new choices. These along with the redesigned camry and fusion hybrids means that the prius liftback will no longer be the one trick pony of the hybrid market. IMHO this is needed to grow the space.

    There is still major dominance of the power split hybrid with Toyota getting 58% market share and ford getting 17% this month in the hybrid and plug in space.
     
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    I know the Prius PHV is still limited to 14 states but I don't know about the others in that group. The ones in limited distribution are likely to see significant sales increases once they go into national distribution.

    It is good to see efficient hybrids spread out in different models. One size does not fit all . . . or if it does, someone is going to be unhappy. I just wish we could see small pickups and utility vans.

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    Wait, a few more months and the Fusion Energi will hit the market. The OM for the Hybrid also includes the Energi, so I have a pretty good handle on what it can do. I really like that I can choose when to use EV, not sure if they are all like that, but that is a good feature.

    So many choice now to have FE cars, and all of them are good, well, except the Volt, way too expensive, and not that impressive to look at.
     
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    Probably not a huge bump, but maybe some. The 15 (not 14) states account for about 60% of hybrid/EV sales.. so adding in the other 35 will be much less than double the likely sales.

    Hopefully the Volt's supply will be better next month (Nov was suffering from the Oct shutdown.

    Totally agree on the need for more variety, a nice AWD would be ideal to replace my wife's subrau. Model X likely to be too expensive and too limited.