1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

considering a prius. thoughts ?

Discussion in 'Newbie Forum' started by detroit11, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. css28

    css28 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    1,566
    442
    3
    Location:
    Suburban Detroit
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Gen II is 2004-2009; Gen III is 2010 - present.

    The Gen III cars have come in 5 trim levels, numbered I through V originally but changed to 1 through 5 when the Prius v wagon was introduced in 2012 (to avoid confusion).
     
  2. detroit11

    detroit11 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2013
    80
    9
    0
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Ok I talked to Steve at Autobeyours.com
    very knowledgeable friendly and willing to share information.
    He suggested the 2006 gray with the vinyl top 119k miles at Rebuildable Prius 04 up
    I found this which is cheaper and less miles no salvage title. its ugly and i dont think it has a rear camera but is there any reason why I wouldnt do that over the other ? :
    2006 Toyota Prius, $7,999 -
    Cars.com
     
  3. css28

    css28 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    1,566
    442
    3
    Location:
    Suburban Detroit
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Indy Auto Man looks a little scary to me. Half of his cars are rebuilt titles and the listing you linked to is extremely vague (seemingly no detailed photos of the actual car).
    I'd be far more inclined to seek out a private seller or a Toyota dealer's used lot.
     
  4. detroit11

    detroit11 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2013
    80
    9
    0
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I read his reviews which were primarily positive. I didnt actually check his other inventory for rebuilt titles etc. I will check that.
    Where are you seeing the rebuilt titles ? I cant seem to find that.
     
  5. css28

    css28 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    1,566
    442
    3
    Location:
    Suburban Detroit
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    How about AT-13708352 on autotrader (at Indy Hyundai)? Plenty of photos!

    Indy Auto Man's price looked so low, it just set off some alarms in my head.

    My advice is to take your time and visit a few places with these cars. Your strongest leverage is the ability to walk away from any first encounter. Ask friends/relatives for recommendations of car lots.
    If you're getting serious about a particular car, consider asking on this forum for a local member who could cast a second set of eyes over a prospect.

    Look into Putting $50 towards a Carfax account. That will buy you up to 5 vehicle reports. They're not infallible, but can be a good tool.
     
  6. usnavystgc

    usnavystgc Die Hard DIYer and Ebike enthusiast.

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2011
    3,159
    989
    0
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    My thoughts are...If the car at Indy Auto is truly a clear title car, there should be no problems with it. The only thing is, none of the photos are of the actual vehicle??? Why is that???? My guess is that there's something wrong with it (but that's just my guess). It's so close to you, why not go look at it and see (just be ready to walk away).

    I do tend to agree w/ Css28 that the Indy Auto Man appears to be a small dealer but, the website looks fairly professional. I looked at the "ebrochure" and the title is listed as code 6 (whatever that means).

    Here's the bottom line for me on these two vehicles:
    If the 06 @ Indy is a clear title and appears in good shape, $7999 is a more than fair price. If it is a rebuilt/salvage title, I wouldn't get it. I would only buy one of them from Steve (since he gives a warranty).
     
  7. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    12,470
    6,868
    2
    Location:
    Greenwood MS USA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    I like my Prius, I liked the Prius I owned before that, but no car is perfect for everyone. This writeup is somewhat gen 2 biased, but applies to all Prius to a degree.

    considering a Prius | PriusChat
     
  8. usnavystgc

    usnavystgc Die Hard DIYer and Ebike enthusiast.

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2011
    3,159
    989
    0
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Out of these, the 09 looks the best. The 07 has a scratch on the door that appears to have gone all the way through to the metal. It is now rusting and that will have to be addressed (seems small but its not an easy fix).
     
  9. Bob Hahn

    Bob Hahn Wingman08

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2012
    386
    118
    0
    Location:
    Jacksonville, Fl
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    If your looking, if your asking, your probably already hooked. Why else are you here? Good luck in which ever package you pick! Get what you want and you'll never regret it. Skimp and you may be sorry and always be asking your self why you just didn't ...... Pick the exact color you want and inspect, inspect, inspect test and did I say inspect prior to buying. You want it to be pristine.
     
    PriusGuy32 likes this.
  10. detroit11

    detroit11 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2013
    80
    9
    0
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    It was a rebuilt title but has already been sold.
     
  11. usnavystgc

    usnavystgc Die Hard DIYer and Ebike enthusiast.

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2011
    3,159
    989
    0
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    I figured that. 7999 was just too good to be true for a clear title. What I've found is that Prius (even salvage title Prius) sell quickly and the salvage title cars don't sell for too much less than the clear title cars.

    Well, I guess now its back to the 09 or Autobeyours. Once again, you asked for my opinion and here it is:
    If I was to buy a car from Autobeyours, I would buy the blue 08 (that is supposed to be ready the middle of March). I would also talk him down if possible. If you didn't want to do that or couldn't get a satisfactory deal, I would consider the red 09. It is just over 50kmiles. Its really hard to mess a Prius up in 50kmiles. The things I don't like about it are the tint (personal pref), the color and the lack of original floor mats. I would use all those to try to talk them down.
     
  12. WilMent

    WilMent diacritic

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2013
    369
    149
    0
    Location:
    New York
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    LE
    Carfax are most definitely not infallible, I was just recently in the market for a car and paid for Carfax. Just out of curiosity I looked up a car that I had traded into the dealer awhile back. Carfax came back 100% clean, no accidents. But I was involved in a not at fault airbag did deploy accident. And the accident was reported to my insurance company and they handled the claim. I don't know what the reporting parameters are to Carfax, but airbag deployed accidents are considered "serious accidents" by the insurance companies. Carfax IMO is a good tool and maybe works for title information i.e. clean or rebuild titles, and how many owners and some service information but don't depend on it for "minor" incidents.
     
  13. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    109,017
    49,542
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i love when a newbie posts and stays on top of the situation. all the best detroit!
     
    WilMent likes this.
  14. WilMent

    WilMent diacritic

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2013
    369
    149
    0
    Location:
    New York
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    LE
    Newbie Prius driver, slightly less Noob at life:D
     
  15. detroit11

    detroit11 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2013
    80
    9
    0
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Ok so I have been looking at Priuses (sp?) all over. The deals at autobeyours seem reasonable however they dont seem amazing. For rebuilt titles. I think this is just the product of the Prius. Steve ( Autobeyours) seems extremely confident about the rebuilt vehicles even with higher miles. He said he wouldnt expect issues out of one for quite a while as long as its maintained. 300k miles he said is easily attainable. Granted I dont expect to drive it that long but you never know. I wouldnt hate leather or Navigation but isnt a big deal , the back up camera would be nice.
    Seems as though for $4-5k more I can get a car with 40-50k miles less which is about 3 years of driving.
    For example:
    Find Your Car: Used Toyota Prius Listings Near Carmel, IN 46032 - AutoTrader.com
    Used 2008 Toyota Prius For Sale |
    only 35k miles

    So I'm trying to decide what to do.
    To top it all off my father in law said he is concerned with me downsizing from a minivan . lol
     
  16. usnavystgc

    usnavystgc Die Hard DIYer and Ebike enthusiast.

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2011
    3,159
    989
    0
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Well, the Prius is every bit as versatile as a minivan. I have put tons of stuff in it. When me and my fam travel, we bring the laptop and a power inverter and watch movies. Going from a minivan to a Prius should be the least of your worries. They are amazingly versatile.

    As for the rest, now it just comes down to your decision. What do you want???? Less miles and less options?????, Salvage title, low miles, lots of options??????, high miles, more options or low price, high miles, less options?????

    When I was looking, my criteria was, a Gen II, 06 or better w/ under 100,000 miles for 10k or less. I ended up getting a salvage 06 (from Steve) that looked and drove brand new, w/ 100,500 mile for $10,005, w/ a 12mo/12kmile warranty. I couldn't find a better deal (and I looked for a long time). You may be able to find a better deal now but w/ gas prices above $3.50 a gal, any better deal won't last long (as evidenced by the salvage 06 for $7999).
     
  17. detroit11

    detroit11 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2013
    80
    9
    0
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Steve seems pretty well reviewed and your experience would back that up.
    I am looking $15k and under the closer to 10k the better. Miles is tough, seems like 100k miles is no big deal on a prius , but conventional car buying keeps getting in my head and makes it hard to see that as ok. ( same issue with rebuilt). Options I liek the back up camera, leather doesnt matter and navigation can be added. ( these are the only 3 options I really see) :)
     
  18. usnavystgc

    usnavystgc Die Hard DIYer and Ebike enthusiast.

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2011
    3,159
    989
    0
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    I hear ya. It is a tough decision.

    100k on a Prius is like 70-80k on a normal vehicle. A good rule of thumb is, take the Prius mileage and multiply by .7 to give you an idea of what mileage you'd be looking at on a normal vehicle. The reason for this is 1) regen braking, 2) the engine shuts off and runs about 70-80% of the time (roughly), there is no alternator, or no starter and the transmission has 1 gear set (similiar in reliability to a rear end in a rear wheel drive vehicle).

    I believe Toyota went out of their way to ensure the Prius delivered exceptional reliability (so the haters would be proven wrong over time).
     
  19. detroit11

    detroit11 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2013
    80
    9
    0
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
  20. PriusGuy32

    PriusGuy32 Prius Driver Extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2012
    1,417
    512
    0
    Location:
    Harrison Township, Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Four