California ZEV mandate discussion

i sure hope so and hope other states follow!

 

From article -

Toyota is launching the RAV4 EV, the subcompact Scion iQ electric city car and the Prius plug-in to help comply with the ZEV rules and also has fuel-cell plans, Love says. "It is not hard to make these cars, but it is hard to make money selling them. We are just not sure yet what will be most acceptable to the public."

 

That's from the OP link. I've got to ask whether these CARB economists actually went to a decent school, or are they actually qualified.

In 2013, simply the hybrid system on the camry and fusion are reported to the automakers to cost around $3000, and sold to consumers for about $4000 - less of a mark up than most optional equipment. I've got to see how fuel cell and BEV batteries in 2025 will add less than half of that to the cost of a new car in 2025. Perhaps CARB economists are assuming that the state will be raising the subsidies in 2025, but are not talking about it, because then people might fight against the proposal.

IMHO the current CARB ZEV regulations that heavily favor fuel cell vehicles will get heavily modified by 2025. Federal subsidies for plug-ins will have run out well before 2025.

The average car today is over 10 years old. It is hard to imagine that enough cars will be replaced in California in the next 13 years to get anywhere close to a 47% reduction unless CARB is planning on not counting any emissions for electricity or hydrogen generation, and takes away a lot of keys.

 

http://opr.ca.gov/docs/Governor's_Office_ZEV_Action_Plan_(02-13).pdf

Current plan is betting on FCEVs and PEVs which btw, also include plug-in hybrid (gas, electric) vehicles

So, it's mostly zero emissions

 

They already modified those regulations. Does anyone have an easy summary for the new ZEV regulations, and how much of a ZEV car a phev or leaf type bev counts for.