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Uhhh...EV Mode mod always on? I'm scared!

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by goitalone, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. goitalone

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    Okay, I'm 99.9% sure this is NOT my imagination!

    I just installed Coastaletech's EV Mode Mod and it seems like it never shuts off!

    I feel extra power and acceleration at ALL speeds as if the electric engine is continuing to help give a more than normal, extra continuous boost of power to the car.

    Current MPG's are way higher while cruising up to 50+ mph and car has an extremely smooth feel to it as if I were in some kind of high speed EV mode! Average MPG's have jumped from low to mid 40's to 60 plus on a 40 mile trip.

    It is a very good feeling, but I'm afraid that something is wrong since it doesn't seem to ever shut off, whether I pull and hold the CC stalk, or if I completely shut the car off and restart.

    Also, my SoC fills up faster and holds a charge longer like it did when I first bought it.

    Anyone have this mod or know if any of the above sounds normal?

    I hope this thing isn't burning out the electric engine or something! :eek:
     
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    I must have been high off caffeine or something...seems ok now, but MPG's def increased dramatically!
     
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    It's amazing how often someone changes something on their car and suddenly the imagination goes wild. I always get at least 200 MPG on the first trip after I wash my car, and 300 if I polish as well. Just kiddin' ya ;)

    BTW. What's the max speed you can do before it kicks you out of EV mode?
     
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    True, however I just drove my friend to the clinic and apparently I was right after all. Sometimes the EV won't shut off or something, and the car does drive and feel like I described above. It kinda has a heavy feel to it.

    It shuts off at about 35. Accelerating from a stop to that speed drains like 2 SoC bars, so not going to use EV unless I'm driving steady, lower speeds.

    Just wish I knew why it doesn't turn off sometimes. Still worried!
     
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    Ok that sounds about right. Overuse of EV mode is not good for the battery health, so definitely use it sparingly.


    We have an EV button that comes standard in the Australian model, so I don't know much about the aftermarket installed ones. But do you have an indicator on the dash to show it's in EV mode?
     
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    No indicators anywhere, which is different from the videos I have seen. It does beep 3 times, but sometimes it doesn't...like when trying to turn it off.
     
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    Ok that makes it a bit more difficult. What about looking to see if the engine is running on the MFD. Surely if the EV mode was on all the time then if you drove under 35MPH then the SOC would just continue to fall until it got down to 2 or 3 bars and kicked you out of EV mode.

    BTW. Mine beeps just once going into and out of EV mode, except when it kicks me out (due to either too much speed or acceleration demand, or too little SOC) in which case it gives three short beeps.
     
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    It does....or did that last drive at least.

    I got off highway (55 mph) onto my street (20 mph) and found EV was still engaged....:confused:


    Hmm...might be different for some years?
     
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    I installed the mod and have not noticed it staying on. The only time I use it is to sneak out of a store parking lot down the road to a steep hill. At the bottom of the hill is a stop sign, I hold the cruise control switch for three seconds the engine starts and I pull out onto the road. I can get 2 miles of no gas battery charging after leaving the store. After that the car behaves normally, the engine shuts off as I do the pulse and glide hyper mile stuff with the no gas high speed glide, if the engine is warm of course.
     
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    It was me not realizing how long to pull to turn EV on/off ... it switched to battery without beeping sometimes too I think.

    I only use it to get out to main road from house or some store parking lots (if SoC is good enough) before warm up and to shut ICE off when it shouldn't be running.

    If it only drained battery 1/4 as fast as it does, it could be so much more useful for gaining mpg
     
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    Yeah it doesn't take long to realize that the EV mode has fairly limited usefulness. You definitely need to use it sparingly. Here's my list of when it is and isn't useful.

    Useful.

    - Moving prius a very short distance when cold. Particularly useful for "car shuffling", where you just need to move a car in or out of a driveway or garage.

    - Arrival and exit of shopping center car park (if it's not too big). Normally the ICE will be off anyway under these conditions, but EV mode is useful to prevent inadvertent bump of pedal to trigger the ICE. Especially if you're only in hybrid stage 3.

    - Force drop a bar of SOC before long decent. Sometimes you'd like burn off a little bit of battery charge before a long decent where you'll be doing a lot of regen. It's often difficult to be gentle enough on the gas to keep it in electric mode long enough to accomplish this without the EV mode switch.

    - And last but definitely not least, to kill the dreaded "hybrid stage 3" endless (unless you stop) engine idle! I sometimes use it here to stop the engine idling while coasting up to traffic lights etc, then once stopped I disable EV and let it idle to "stage 4".


    Not Useful (avoid).

    - Delaying engine warmup. I know it can occasionally be useful for this, but be aware that using EV to delay engine warm up while you're traveling slowly to the end of your street or whatnot can be counterproductive. It can cause a lot more stress on both the engine and the battery when you're suddenly trying to accelerate onto a main road with a stone cold engine.

    - Accelerating. Obviously when you use EV mode you sometime need to accelerate, but try to avoid using EV mode just for the sake of keeping the ICE off (and hence not seeing the low instantaneous MPG's that you get when accelerating under engine power). This is always counterproductive and a major noob mistake.

    - Anytime in general driving when you're thinking of doing just for the heck of it (just to see that really cool 99.9MPG come up). Avoid unless it's immediately before good downhill regeneration section.
     
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