An interesting suggestion of what to do with the Boston Marathon culprit

Just some random musings:

• One is dead - the older brother who spent six months home learning his craft and deciding one country that has been sympathetic to his homeland's plight had to be 'punished.'
• One is alive - the younger brother who was a US citizen but it looks like he followed his brother's lead.
• Sociopaths and pain - look up 'autism'; "A Clockwork Orange"; murder-suicide (aka., New Town)

When I was in Marine bootcamp, someone asked the drill instructor what it feels like to kill someone. His answer,"Recoil." If you think about it . . . that is the right answer at that time.

I've long wondered if Timothy McVeigh might have suffered the after-effects of his time in the first Iraq war. A form of PTSD misdirected when he returned to civilian life . . . not that I mind he is no more.

Bob Wilson

 

Currently in this country it costs MORE to inflict the death penalty than life imprisonment. If one wishes to be frugal about punishment, one should favor life imprisonment.

 

Personally I have never understood the moral outrage with televising executions. If one is going to favor the death penalty as a deterrent, the more people that see it, the better. If it not meant as a deterrent, I don't see much point in it.

I am not convinced that those seeking a martyr's death would see death as worse than life imprisonment. If they are seeking 72 virgins, why not make them wait as long as possible. A death sentence certainly didn't dissuade the 911 hijackers.

 

If you martyr for a religion, then they want death.

Well it doesn't work when it is done that way, we have evidence of that. One of so many examples would just be Iran. They love public executions, and they execute the most other than China. A favoured execution is a public hanging by a construction crane, sometimes the body is hung from the crane for a long time as a symbol.

If the only thing preventing you from killing people is the fear of the death penalty, then there is something wrong anyways and help is needed.

 

I would need to see a control group or at least a comparison. Not sure I see your evidence as presented.

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If the criteria for 'does not work' is how many are punished, then prisons would certainly qualify in this country.

 

I would need to see a control group or at least a comparison. Not sure I see your evidence as presented.

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If the criteria for 'does not work' is how many are punished, then prisons would certainly qualify in this country.

 

Dup. please delete.

 

Agree on that last part. In a number of dictatorships, the public executions are much more for making it clear how far the dictatorship is willing to go to maintain it's grip on the population.

 

Another lie spread by the folks that want us to try to rehabilitate everyone.

Some folks just need killing.

And making me pay for the rest of their lives is punishing me.

 

Ending the 'war on drugs' would be a lot cheaper and make a substantial reduction in prison population.

I don't 'set my hair on fire' about killin' some but I would recommend reading: The Innocence Project - Home

There have been 306 exonerated, more than enough to call into question capital punishment.

Bob Wilson

 

Got evidence?

Quite possibly. But then one would be looking for removal, or vengeance, not lowest cost. At which point, just say so.

 

I don't agree with the war on drugs... and yes, if that was changed we would have fewer folks in the prisons.

I don't believe anyone should be put in prison for more than 10 years, because it is cruel.

If they cannot be rehabilitated to return into society in 10 years or less - kill them.

As for those that were punished in error and sent to prison because of those errors (or because of an agenda by the prosecutiuon) I don't believe that is the case in this instance at all Bra... this little bastard that killed folks out having a good time, and then killed again while trying to run, doesn't deserve to live.

 

I like this:

Source: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev-Hearing Transcript: Boston bombing suspect said only one word during his first hearing.

Transcript: First Hearing

Yes, this is exactly what should happen.

Bob Wilson

 

I'll give it a shot.

How about we dress him in running shorts and shirt, with official marathon numbers safety pinned to his shirt, and a good pair of sneakers. In front of him we put a bunch of nails and ball bearings in a pressure cooker with a CNG car and so dynamite.

 

I agree with this.
I work as a compliance officer, the part of my job I hate is issuing fines. I get no pleasure from taking money from people's family budget even if they have done something wrong. I will give warnings unless I feel I have to report an offender becausethe offence was dangerous or I get the impression from the offender they wont heed the warning.
People I encounter say they would love my job and would like to give fines to even the most minor offender, they have no idea how it feels.
If you want to really hurt people and use as a tool of preventing atrocities, keep murderer in gaol for the rest of their lives and publish lists of the names of people who are locked up and will die in prison. No TV, no radio, no visits, no communication. Just push the food in to a 9 square metre cell and a shoot to take away the waste. All food served on a sheet of waxed paper and all cut up so they can eat with their hands. A shower in the corner that has a timer, only runs for 2 minutes every 24 hours, liquid soap and no towel, air dry. Make them stay naked in the cell and climate controlled to keep the temperature just OK, no blankets no bedding apart from some straw replaced once a week.
Of course if I had to administer this I'd hate it.

 

When I was in the Marines, I was a prisoner escort for the recruit training depot. I found:

• 85% - young kids with no problem solving skills.
• 10% - bad guys
• 5% - nut case

But I found I had to get out of that assignment as it was starting to affect my judgement. About 2/3d of the brig staff were in language and attitude, not that different from the inmates they had to control and 1/3d had character that was granite hard . . . no nonsense from anyone. When I found I was changing, well I had to move on to another assignment.

Bob Wilson

 

I would rather find out what is done in countries with lower recidivism rates than ours and try that. The large majority of prisoners serve their time and are released. Enabling them to fit into society as civilized human beings is more important to me than punishment or vengeance, although I have to admit seeing certain prisoners suffer would give me a brief feel-good moment. You aren't going to get prisoners to get along better with people after they are released by isolating them while they are in prison.