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  1. Costanza_goes_green

    Costanza_goes_green Junior Member

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    The 2010 Prius in our garage would not start today. I tried jump starting it with the 12 volt in our van, but the light on our smart jumper cables would not light up on the Prius side even when I switched them around. I followed the manual's five minutes revving and such, but the ready light does not come on in the Prius. There is enough power for the inside lights to come on, but they are dimmed. I'm thinking we left the lights on in the back seat dome area based on what my daughter told me. The car has not been driven for about 65 hours.

    Any suggestions, other than tow to the dealer?
     
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    Try jumping it directly from the battery in the hatch. Might not be getting a good enough connection in the engine bay.
     
  3. Former Member 68813

    Former Member 68813 Senior Member

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    Ask someone who really KNOWS how to jump cars before doing any more damage to your car, please.
     
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  4. Costanza_goes_green

    Costanza_goes_green Junior Member

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    I just followed the directions in the manual. The clip to connect it to was in the fuse box. It had a plus sign, so I think that was right. I tried the negative on the body, and on the bolt shown on the following page. The dealer is closed today, so I'll double-check with them in the morning. I do not want to do any damage to the car obviously.

    Were you stating it is a bad idea to try to jump the battery directly?
     
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    Former Member 68813 Senior Member

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    Too many people reverse polarity and blow a fuse or much worse. If you are positive you followed the directions, you should be fine. Were the donor side connections also correct? I don't know what smart jump cable is.

    Edit: I got myself educated on the smart part that is really dumb:

    from: Amazon.com: BDoyle282's review of Michelin 5100 Smart Jumper Cables with Sur...
     
  6. Costanza_goes_green

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    The smart cable basically makes it so that you cannot screw up the polarity. Also, the center section lights up green on each side when everything is a go, so you know the power is coming in and going out.

    When trying this from the engine area fuse box, the green light would not light up on the Prius side.

    Since then I climbed into the trunk, and manually opened it. Then I disconnected the ground on the battery based on instructions found in the manual on pages 436-437. I tried revving the engine moderately for 5 minutes and we tried again. This time, no power at all in the front. I disconnected the cables, and reconnected the ground, and we returned to the previous status quo. Is it really dangerous to leave the ground wire connected if the area is well ventilated? Maybe I need to do that and leave it for longer?

    Thanks for the input!
     
  7. Costanza_goes_green

    Costanza_goes_green Junior Member

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    Thanks! I just did. I couldn't get in because the car was locked, and the trunk wouldn't open. See below for update. Still having problems.
     
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    I guess you didn't bother to read what I posted above. Your "smart" cable will NOT work if the prius' battery is completely dead. You need to use a "dumb" cable, preferably by someone who knows what one's doing.
     
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    Yes, you are correct. I overlooked that part of the post. I apologize. I appreciate your help. Both sides of the cable lit up when going directly to the battery, but it was still to no avail. Is it okay to remove the battery and take it to Autozone to get it charged? I would think it should be pretty similar to a regular 12 volt battery in that regard.
     
  10. Costanza_goes_green

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    Well, I took the battery to the dealer. they checked it and said it was bad. We purchased a new one from there; I installed it and that seemed to take care of it. It's a shame the original one went bad in less than three years, but we do have over 70K on it, so the original warranty did not apply.

    I still don't quite understand how the jump-start goes with this car, but with a new 7 year warranty, and the new familiarity with where the battery is and how to get it in and out, I feel better.

    Thanks for the assistance friendly_jacek and Maroon!
     
  11. retired4999

    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    Thanks for the info on the cables. I did not know that about the smart cables, good to know! (y)
     
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    Glad you got it fixed. The 12v battery in the prius is pretty wimpy and doesn't take to a full discharge very well. You might replace your cabin lights with LEDs if you find you're forgetting and leaving them on all the time. LEDs draw much less current than the normal bulbs.
     
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    JimN Let the games begin!

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    Unless things changed recently Toyota parts (battery included) come with a 1 year/unlimited mileage warranty. My battery is down to 10.2v under load in 41 months. The replacement is in the mail. You may want to hook up a BatterMinder to keep the new one topped off.
     
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    Actually, Toyota should have designed the interior lights so that they time-out after some prescribed interval.

    I had the 12v battery discharged when a passenger turned on a dome light in bright daylight so it wasn't noticed by my daughter when she parked the car.
     
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    I had the same situation a month ago. The battery didn't take any charge while left in the car. I had to remove it out from the trunk and charged it in the garage. It also took over 36 hours to fully charge it. I heard that it is the character of the deep charge battery if it is fully drained. It has been working normally so far for over 2 weeks.