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The Little Fins Under The Car

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by El Dobro, May 18, 2013.

  1. El Dobro

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    I guess this is what they are.
    The Air-Benders
     
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    The principles applied to the GS in that article sound more performance oriented than fuel efficient. Adding downforce and weight to the steering sounds like it will require more energy to move down the road.
     
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    According to the article, Lexus is using the air bender technology on all their cars. It probably filtered over to the Prius because it could use the help. The next time I'm under the car I'll look for more air benders. :D
    Another thing I've wondered about is the stability control on the Prius. VWs I've owned had crosswind control built into the stability control. Since the Prius also has electric steering, does it have the programming too?
     
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    The Prius definitely uses spats and air bending technology but it is for a different purpose. :) That's probably one of the reasons it's so floaty at highway speeds. lol
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    I guess all the arrows are to tell the victim which way the car's going when you run someone over. :D
     
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    -Most- "air benders" that would actually -fit- under or on a Prius do almost nothing. It takes a pretty big wing (the fins are actually wings) to move enough air to have an effect at the speeds most cars travel on public roads. But they look cool!! Many of those grooves you see on the undertreatment of the Prius are there for stiffening. So the plastic doesn't wave in the wind, making even more strange noises than the Prius already does. ;)

    As an example, I learned long ago that the "wings" you will find over the trunk on "performance cars" perform one and only one function (other than looking cool) - they make it really hard to see out the back when you are reversing! They have been measured to give only a few pounds of downforce at any legal speed.
    The one interesting use of "air benders" that I have seen is a rear "diffuser". A series of fins that attempts to direct air trapped under the rear of the car straight out the back, instead of allowing it to "leak" out the sides as well. This can increase the "vacuum" under the rear, helping to hold the rear of the car down at high speeds, but again supra-legal speeds mostly. This application causes no drag and actually does work, but only at high speeds.
     
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    Hmmm, maybe the Prius has the air benders on the back panel because the same part is also used on a Lexus.
     
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    If you look closely at the fenders in the rear you can -imagine- they stick down enough to start to actually form a diffuser. Many cars use this effect, some more effectively than others. If you look at a racing Corvette they have a -huge- rear diffuser.
    Some cars really need the help. The VW beetle and the Audi, and they have so much air build-up it was lifting the rear wheels off the ground on the European highways, causing serious crashes! They had to legislate spoilers to fix this problem (some deploy at certain speeds - increasing the cool factor).
     
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    I just recently noticed the diffusers on my rear bumper. I wonder what those are for
     
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    Enhanced air flow all part of better MPG.
     
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    On the back bumper?
     
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    I think it is under the bumper on each side kind of like little fins. I think that is what he means, just my guess.
     
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    They're in the photo F8L posted above, two of them on the left side of the photo.
     
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    I saw those but I thought he was talking about the two fins on the rear bumper on the bottom. Sorry if I was mistaken!
     
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    Now you have me wondering. :D
     
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    I went out and looked and I don't see fins. You can't miss the air-benders, they look to be about 1 1/4" deep by about 6" long.
     
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    Thanks! I Stand corrected. (y)
     
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    Good, 'cause I don't wanna run out to look at the car again tonight. :LOL:
     
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    F8L, is that the old(er) bowtie OEM center brace I see in the center of the car?

    How old is the picture? Is it a pre-mods picture?