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Prius died on freeway. 3 lug nuts missing, is this the cause?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Branndon, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. uart

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    Hi Brandon. What's the current state of charge of the HV battery, as indicated on by the 8 red/blue/green bars on the energy monitor screen. I tried to look for this on your video but I see you don't have that screen selected. You really should have that screen selected, especially in your current situation.
     
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    My screen has had issues for almost a year now. It works sometimes, and sometimes it doesn't. If I can get it working, I'll check the HV battery level.
     
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    Ok, definitely try to get a reading on the SOC. It's kind of an important thing to know right now, it might be the reason that you currently can't start. I'm surprised that you were able to rule out this possibility when you actually can't even see the display.
     
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    The voltage is at 11.17 while the car is on, and 11.77 (and slowly climbing) when the car was off.

    The oil is VERY low though. I am on a hill, with the nose of the car on the higher point, but it's still pretty low.

    I'm leaning towards the low oil being the problem, but not sure.

    The touch screen has been on and off working for about a year now. While driving sometimes the radio shuts off and the screen turns on. Odd, and not sure if it's related to this.
     
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    ...noticed that when the car was powered up the "ready" light was not illuminated. Could be the reason for the car not shifting into Drive as the computers have detected a problem and will not allow you to put the vehicle in gear.
     
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    Thats what I thought too.
     
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    Btw, if your driving the car and the engine is not coming on you are driving on the hybrid battery.

    Here's the most important question:

    When the car died on the highway were you able to drive a ways on battery only? And how far?
     
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    You indicated that your MFD was working intermittently - however, usually when the master warning light is illuminated, the MFD will indicate that there is a problem and display a symbol and / or an abbreviation. For example: when my power steering went a few weeks ago (I needed a new power steering ecu) the warning light illuminated, the MFD indicated "problem" and then displayed a "PS" in the upper LH corner. Anything on your MFD?
     
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    No ready no go. Which is telling as even if the engine won't start it still should go into READY unless he flagged the Hybrid battery.

    Probably has a super clogged throttle body...stalled the motor...and he drove till the Hybrid battery died.
    Simulating a run out of gas which we have seen a million times.

    And btw, his 12 volt battery is beyond toast.
     
  10. Branndon

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    There was a red box on the left side of the screen, that's all I remember when it initially happened. The gas engine cut out, and I drove less than a mile on electric and pulled off on my own. I wasn't forced off due to driving on electric.
     
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    So bad 12 volt, and clogged throttle body? Both are likely.
     
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    For sure, you need a new 12V battery to start. Let's see what happens after you have a good battery installed.

    You also should try to figure out how it is possible that a wheel was missing three lug nuts and replace them. Also check the other three wheels to make sure that all lug nuts are present and tightened to 76 ft.-lb.
     
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    Would just replacing the battery be enough to clear the code? I'll get a new one this weekend as one of my tasks for this project.
     
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    OK. Maybe you should start from the beginning. What exactly happened? How fast were you driving? What is the air temperature? I can't seem to find any posts earlier than "3 lug nuts missing".

    Now for the important stuff... DO NOT run down the hybrid battery. While the low oil is definitely a problem, I highly doubt that this is the reason for your "no start" situation / car cutting out on the highway. There are a few things that you should do before attempting to do anything with the car. First off, get new lug nuts and torque to the proper specs. Even if you were to get the car started, you would not want to be moving it around with only 2 lug nuts! Secondly, knowing that the oil is low, perform an oil/filter change. Check the MFD for any problem codes and report back. A scanner is the best bet to pull any codes that were thrown. Pulling the negative battery cable as you know will temporarily clear the codes but if the problem persists, they will return. Once you install the new battery, give us an update!
     
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    I was merging on the freeway, maybe 50-65 mph.

    It was HOT out, 102 when I pulled over.

    Lug nuts will be on the list to buy before I drive. It's oil, lug nuts, and a new battery.

    Visual condition of the battery and cables looks great. Very clean.

    I'll check the engine air filter now.
     
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    Engine air filter was fine. A little dirty, I cleaned it out with air.
     
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    I see you have your day planned for tomorrow - good luck with the battery. BTW was the combination meter ever replaced in that vehicle?
     
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    combination meter? the touch screen in the center of the dash? No, it's original.
     
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    No, the combination is the digital display (speed, odometer, fuel gauge, etc). When this starts going bad, the dash does not illuminate and the car is difficult to shut down (MFD (center screen) stays on, green light on power button stays on but car will not power down. To turn off car, you must hold the power button down with foot on brake until the car shuts down. The CM is under an enhanced warranty good for 9 years from the in-service date or Sept 2013...which ever comes LATER! While watching your video, the difficulty that you had powering down your car reminded me of a similar experience when my CM was on its way out. The first time mine failed was in HOT weather in the middle of summer!
     
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    The speedo speed disappeared when I tried to restart the car, so it's an option. So I'm under warranty for a few months still if it is the CM? Will the code thrown tell me if this is the problem?