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Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Chuck., Jun 27, 2013.

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  1. Chuck.

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    Maybe PD is ready for reconciliation. I believe she needs to show the world she mended her ways.
     
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    Actually, if you read the link you posted, Jackson says this (my italics)
     
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    Trying to justify your lynch mob?

    Nobody - nobody on this thread has supported PD or racism.

    Even when it's pointed out Jimmy Carter and Jesse Jackson thinks the punishment is enough, you seem to have a problem. Even Nelson Mandela had a Truth and Reconciliation Committee....do you have a Truth and Damnation Committee?

    If the object of all this wrath was Mel Gibson, that would be understandable as he has made frequent and recent racist/Anti-semitic statements well beyond what PD has said.

    Now a quote for you

    Reflecting on his lashing back at racism on 60 Minutes
     
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    You're wasting your time responding to him. You will get carpal tunnel syndrome.
     
  6. Chuck.

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    ^ pointing out he's no better than the racist he hates.

    Thank you for acknowledging that.
     
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    Chuck sympathy for the devil (Racism).

    Chuck I have never been the victim of Racism. However we cannot quickly throw these type of destructive activities under the carpet and label it as, well they do it why can't we, it's part of history, it's OK we call it life, it's a witch hunt, why get carpel tunnel, some celebs get away with it. That is the messaging I hear from you. It is the wrong message.

    The proper message is , Racism is wrong and it is not tolerated in any situation. I'd like to hear that message from you. I have not.

    The history of the American Negro, The American Indian and the Jewish population in Europe in the 30 and 40's were all the product of Racism. While you may have no sensitivity to it, others are deeply offended by it. So when PD goes on the Today Show and says ( I DON'T KNOW IF THE N WORD IS RACIST) and ( LET THE FIRST PERSON WHO DID NOT USE A RACIST TERM THROW THE FIRST ROCK) she basically deeply insulted all the people who have died for no other reason then one race of people thought they were superior to another. You may not be a parent who's child has nightmares when Racism rears it's ugly face, many do. I just don't understand why you DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS RATHER SIMLE CONCEPT.

    Racism killed 6 Million Jews because the Arian Race thought they were superior. The history of Racism in the trail of tears for American Indians or the history of Slavery in America cannot be denied.

    As far as PD, she made her bed and she slept in it. I just can't for the life of me understand why PD does not understand HISTORY and why Racism is dead wrong. That si what I got from her interview.

    Can Paula be forgiven? I don't know. Will she be forgiven? I don't know. Should she be forgiven? I don't know.

    That is all up to PD. Time will tell. I would like to see her reach out and have concrete steps to mend race relations. That I believe is her next step. In time when public opinion changes for her she may return to her occupation and regain the public trust.

    So we can agree to not agree.
     
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    Can she? Yes. Will she? Yes. Should she? Yes.

    What she needs to do is disappear for 90 days and let the mob forget about her. It worked for every other celebrity scandal, from sex tapes to infidelity.
     
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    JMD, you are going OCD on this - seriously.

    Again, if I in person dwelt on this topic a fraction of the length as you have people would be suggesting I need help - sorry to be that blunt.

    Nobody has given PD a pass or think she did not get what she deserved, but for you that's not enough! We are not talking about a 2nd Mississippi Burning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - people were killed! It's been days since PD was on page one - except in the minds of you and Sagebrush. If PD does something else it will immediately be in the news again. How some of you think her remarks compare to someone like Mel Gibson escapes me.

    Direct question: What more do you want done to PD? Do you want her to hide her face anytime she goes out to public? Nobody ever spending a penny ever? Heckled everywhere she goes? Viral videos and sites condemning her? Some other suggestion to make her life an utter living hell for the rest of her days? JMD, do you see yourself as we are seeing you? Does your advocacy put you on a higher road?
     
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    Chuck I only respond when you belittle her mistake.

    I'm not the judge and jury of PD

    Time will tell if she is successful.

    Unfortunately this will follow her forever.

    The day she passes on as newspapers print her life story this fall from grace will be mentioned as a foot note in her biography.

    The real untold story is if her personal history will reflect activities to right the wrong.

    It is all in Paula's court. The world hopes she rises to the challenge.

    So for now take a seat and relax. The future is within PD to change

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    THEN QUOTE ME

    Find where I said she got mistreated.

    You will find me suggesting she got what she deserved - lost sponsors representing millions of dollars and ruined reputation. Only an enraged person would find that trivial.

    Then why do you keep this thread going on and on and on and on saying PD has not been punished enough? ANSWER THAT.
     
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    Chuck I sense you support racists. That is what I get from your response. Again I'm deeply deeply deeply offended by that. I think your response is a under reaction
     
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    Just a guess -- because you appear to be saying that a sniveling apology is enough to turn back the clock and return her to her former status and commercial empire.
     
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    "Just the facts" - Sgt. Friday.

    Find the quotes to support it, JMD. You can't of course and respond to it seems voices in your head.

    Facts, not feelings.

    I'm sorry you feel Jimmy Carter and Jesse Jackson are racist by your implications...I agree with them when they ask for the dogs going at PD be called off and forgive her. You are crazy enough to imagine I'm racist, but not to the point of attacking Jimmy Carter's identical stand - how cowardly.

    JMD, I suspect you have a problem with unforgiveness that lets people own you given your endless posts on topics like this.
     
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    So you have a beef with Jimmy Carter who also said to forgive?

    and a serious beef Nelson Mandela was giving a pass with a Truth and Reconciliation Committee - you think it should have been a Truth and Damnation Committee?

    I challenge you to find a quote I want PD to go back to "business as usual." PD is not going to recover to what she was before.
     
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    If my understanding of your opinion is correct, then I disagree with anyone who shares your opinion.
     
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    Chuck from Texas it is a sad day when I read your rhetoric. You are no Jimmy Carter. Perhaps you should read your own posts. I rather not feel Ill re reading your ugly position. Hat is sad is you think it is the modern position.
    What is sad is children may adopt your rhetoric thus racism continues from generation to generation. You are helpless.

    If you think PD should be forgiven and everything restored as before only a few days after her bigotry that is your right but I just don't believe she can restore the public faith so soon. What has she done besides read a press release on you tube?
     
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    Like Sagebrush said: "It's not about me"

    It's about facts.

    All you have to do JMD is find a quote from me to support your feelings - I've got plenty of quotes in this thread.

    Instead you smear Texas in a way to suggest from your feelings it's a racist state.

    You feel anyone not screaming PD's rest of life being made into an utter living hell is a racist. Respected civil rights leaders that disagree with your bloodlust disturb you - you don't dare attack them but attack me.
     
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    Chuck if the shoe fits....

    Evidently you ignored the facts PD brought forward

    I did not smear Texas. I said Chuck from Texas. Chuck when you assume you make an A$$ of yourself.

    Unfortunately PD her act will follow her forever. Maybe that is the lesson. Not sure why you have trouble with that.

    Chuck there is no place in modern society for the Paula Deens of the world. The faster you grasp that the better the world will be. When PD transforms herself society improves for the better. If we allow this to continue nothing gets better.
     
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    Yes.

    Not the 1st time on this thread, but said she got her just rewards.

    How her actions compare to Mel Gibson, David Duke, etc is what I don't understand.
     
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