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Long term test of Thorium-Plutonium fuel started

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by Trollbait, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. austingreen

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    Mojo,

    Love the conspiracy, but you got a number of facts wrong.

    Texaco bought the patents from nimh GM, and this was later aquired by Chevron. Chevron Sold them to a Samsung/Bosch Joint venture that would make money if they could. By now lithium from Samsung, LG, Panasonic, A123, etc technology is far beyond the burried pattents, and is in over 100,000 plug ins.

    The Chinese and Indians are pouring money into thorium research and building traditional reactors. The US DOE is helping the Chinese, not hiding its research.

    Nixon is the one credited with ending the US funded thorium program. He went with uranium because he wanted the nuclear waste to build bombs. The Russians made a similar decision.

    Nuclear in the US was not stopped by environmentalists or the UN, it was stopped because costs were much more expensive than promised. The NRC and utilities both made US nuclear power expensive. Many countries built unsafe nuclear plants. Nuclear still looks to be much more expensive than wind or natural gas in the US.

    I really doubt the Chinese will bury the research to help in a UN scheme. If they get it right they may close down some coal plants and build less solar. I'm sure they will also try to sell the US back some of the tech they have created with our help.
     
  2. mojo

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    Thanks for the clarification.
    But India and China , neither are under the yoke of the UN IPCC.
    They are the major proponents of Thorium research.
    Whereas those pushing for a carbon tax, or Cap and Trade ,dont have Thorium on the technological radar.
    They want a looming carbon catastrophe to justify a 2% world tax.
    Thorium means no CO2 catastrophe,no CO2 world tax.
    So no Thorium research funding.
    Whereas the US has spent nearly $100 billion trying to prove AGW.
    If we just spent half that to create Thorium reactors over the past 20 years ,we would have safe clean energy today with no CO2 increase.
    But if Obama decided to spend a few Billion $ today ,we could be a world leader in the technology in a few years.

    Probably the mismanaged money he threw away to Solyndra and bankrupt auto and battery manufacturers may have been enough to develop Thorium reactors.
    But Thorium apparently isnt on Obamas radar,even though Steven Cho was a proponent.


     
  3. Corwyn

    Corwyn Energy Curmudgeon

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    Yes, you do. You. And the others here on PC. Next time I will be more careful to properly access intelligence. Happy?
     
  4. austingreen

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    OK. You used a 100% number changing all energy to thorium, and said you have been using this for awhile. I pointed it out to you that this is entirely unrealistic.

    Instead of acknowledging your mistake, you point to a disclaimer.

    If you think I am the audience to swallow this, well yes, you should reassess. Some in your audience will call you on mistakes. Should I PM you on your mistake instead of the sarcastic comment? Maybe, but don't take the correction so personally. I would think you, as an intelligent person, would not want to continue to use obviously flawed data.
     
  5. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Scatec, the owner of Thor Energy, has announced plans for building a thorium plant in Norway. It seems the two articles I posted were the most lacking in overall details, oops. Another article, mentioned commercial production of this fuel, if it works, would be in the UK. By Westinghouse perhaps. Which is why I think the European market is their primary target.
     
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