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Please tell me if I am fooling myself with this math for gas?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by buck_rogers, Sep 6, 2013.

  1. buck_rogers

    buck_rogers Junior Member

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    I am looking at buying a 2010 Prius II. I saw them for $15,900. That is about $270 a month for me at 60 - 72 months.

    I currently have a 2004 Honda Odyssey. It gets 17MPG. I spend 400 a month in gas, 350 - 400. That car is paid off, however.

    What I figure is that 400 (odyssey gas) - 270 (prius ii payement) is $130.

    Therefore I have $130 possible dollars to spend on gas per month.

    Because the Prius gets about 40mpg+ (I drive almost all city, no freeway), that is $130 / $3.61 average gas price, or about 36 gallons of gas.

    36gal * 40mpg is 1440 miles+-. I drive 26 miles round trip to work. That is 55 days worth of work. I would certainly drive other than work.


    Am I doing crazy math here? Would $130 really give me 1440 miles? I don't know how many fillups that is, though.

    Thanks.
     
  2. bisco

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    you're spot on, except a better number is your average yearly mileage divided by 12. and perhaps you should use $375/mo. instead of $400.? all the best!(y)
     
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    I'd almost say more depending on how you drive. Take your 130.00 and divide it by 3.60 =36*55mpg=1980. I just bought my first Prius yesterday and my average is 54mpg so far.!
     
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    Even if it is a 2010? Thanks for the replies, btw. Is $16k too much for say 50k miles or less?
     
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    Ha no the newer it seems the better the gas mileage. I paid 8300 for an 07 with 94000 miles. It's amazing how well these cars hold their values. Get on craigslist and look at comperable cars to that one.. You'll be surprised at how high their prices stay
     
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    40 is a conservative number, but good to use in calculating breakeven in case that's all you get. 16k doesn't sound unreasonable, but more importantly, how does it compare to others for sale in your area?
     
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    It is about average in Georgia where I live.
     
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    In addition to the calculations you've already done, you should consider what is the trade-in value of the Odyssey and subtract that from the Prius purchase price (incl. sales tax and license). Then figure out what your monthly payments would be.

    I also suggest you consider taking a shorter term loan to reduce the amount of interest that will ultimately be paid. Good luck with your decision.
     
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    Don't forget about insurance. It's likely to go up from an old minivan to a newer hatchback.
     
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    good point, and maint. should go down.
     
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    You are making your car payment from your gas savings and have $130 left over. What else needs to be said?
     
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    You say $350-$400/mo in the Ody. If you're truly getting 17mpg and you project 40mpg in the Prius then the monthly savings are:
    $350 * (40-17)/40 = $201.25
    $400 * (40-17)/40 = $230

    That suggests either:
    - Your calculation ignores a lot of other miles you drive:
    (17 * $350/$3.61)/26 = 63.39 "days" per month, a lot of miles apart from work
    - Your Ody gets a lot worse than 17mpg.
     
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    Thanks. I do not follow the last calculation, however. What do you mean 63.39 "days"?
     
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    Sounds like you are doing 20000+ mile per year and potentially save $3000/yr on fuel.
    Sounds like the 2010 Prius may have high miles on it already?
    What state are you in for battery warranty purposes.
     
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    From your figures, that is how many work days it takes to consume the monthly amount of gas you stated.

    I.e. recheck your figures. 26 miles round trip commute accounts for only 520 - 546 miles per month. The stated monthly fuel cost of the Ody requires around 1600 miles per month.

    Something is amiss, or the great bulk of your driving miles is not for commuting. Rather than fuel spending, how many miles per year are you rolling up? Don't just make a SWAG from memory, get some actual concrete figures.
     
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    I use it for other things besides commuting. I was using a small number I could understand and relate to. Total is around 15000 a year.
     
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    That makes an average of 1250 miles per month. At 17 mpg and $3.61/gal, that adds up to only $265 of fuel per month, about the same as the proposed Prius payment. So the Prius fuel, around $100-115 per month, will be extra spending compared to your current budget.
     
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    Yeah. Something ain't right. Thanks.
     
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    i think he's right, unless you have bill's for $350.-400., but like patrick said, you haven't factored in the trade in value.