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What is the oldest Prius you'd buy?

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  1. buck_rogers

    buck_rogers Junior Member

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    Would you buy anything with good mileage past 2004? Wouldn't the HV batteries be about ready to die on a 2004 (ten years)? Aren't they all Hybrid and get the good gas mileage 40+?
     
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    I just bought a 2004 prius with 120k miles on it. The battery better not die lol. Im hoping to have this car for many many years, into the 300k club...
     
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    What year did you buy it? Just recently?
     
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    just bought it a week ago today. traded in my 02 Taurus with a gas guzzling v6 and engine troubles plus 5500 bucks for this prius.
     
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    we sold our '04 with 95k on it to our neighbor last year for $6,000. i had no second thoughts about it. the battery is warranted for another year and 150,000 miles. of course, the car ran like new and i expect he'll have no problems for as long as he chooses to keep it. it's still going strong at 115,000 miles.
     
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    So the battery is still under warranty?
     
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    The battery is warranted for 8 years 100k in all states and 10y, 150k in CARB states.
     
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    The answer to this question is highly individual, depending on many factors but primarily on the financial condition and tolerance to risk of the individual.

    All Prius' are hybrids and are designed to get above 40 mpg.

    "Wouldn't the HV batteries be about ready to die on a 2004 (ten years)?"
    The HV battery will not last forever, that's true. But how long they will last I don't think there is enough empirical data to place a solid figure on that. Some have certainly failed at lower ages and some at higher ages but the vast majority continue with little degradation of service. Consumer Reports did a test to get a handle on the effects of age on the HV battery. I think they did a report on a new 02 and checked at again 10 years later and found the difference to be negligible.

    It's also worth noting that when these HV batteries fail it is not the entire battery pack that is at fault but may only be 1 or 2 cells that can be replaced with the right process.

    "Would you buy anything with good mileage past 2004?"

    I don't think anything, but under the right circumstances there are some pre 04 Prius' I might would purchase, though I prefer the second generation over the first.
     
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    <== This is me with Priapus: my 2004, 115,000 mile old best friend.

    He routinely returns mid-60s mpg, cleans up like new, and runs like a champ. I have not had his battery pack checked for overall health, but from eight full years of driving experience, I can tell you (anecdotally) that there is no degradation of the battery or any other parts.

    I will say this, my biggest disappointment was during the 100,000 mile check-up when they returned everything to factory specs and my mileage dropped. I spent 100,000 miles breaking him in and now he's back to spec. Dang it. :)

    If you want proof that a 2004 can still kick gas, click the mileage chart in my signature.
     
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    yes, mass is a carb state.
     
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    I saw in a video that the models in the 2004 - 2009 changed in 2007. They said Toyota added a side airbag. I don't remember what else. Are the engines pretty much the same?

    edit: Thanks for the link. Is that typical?
     
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    Any non-salvaged one. Why do you think the batteries are going to die at 10 years? The warranty is for 10 years in CARB states. But the warranty on your transmission is 60K. Did your transmission explode at 60,001 miles? No...

    They are exactly the same except the trimmings. Mechanically they are identically. And the change was MY2006.
     
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    Sounds like I could get into the ball game relatively cheap then. I don't know why everyone that is a "normal" commuter doesn't do this.

    I do have to haul five people though. I will be under the 825lbs limit, but I read on here that weight does not affect the mpg as much as driving, atmosphere, etc.
     
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    People have towed thousands of pounds and more with the Prius. The 825lb limit is artificial and from Toyota as a CYA.

    5 full size adults in the Prius all the time, probably isn't the most comfortable for the person stuck in the middle of the backseat. 4 people or less most of the time, with a fifth some of the time then no problem. Unless you are talking about children in which case they don't get a vote and should be fine. :)
     
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    Have you considered renting a Prius for a week or two. That way you can get the feel of it, plus do your commuting with the five people. If you were to do that, you would then have a good idea of what a Prius will do and also have an idea of how your passengers feel about your new ride.
     
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    This is also where a Prius V with the third back row seating would come in handy. An email to Toyota everytime this situation comes up might help them change their mind about not importing that style to the states.
     
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    They returned your car to factory specs which dropped your mpg? What did you do to increase it that resetting the car would erase? Is there a link to this info? Why would they reset it?
     
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    I don't recall exactly what the 100,000 mile entailed. I can look it up later, but it involved some fluid draining and checking which involved removing some parts and putting them back. Here's my thread on it:
    What did the Dealership do to My Car? | PriusChat

    Essentially, when I got the car back, it felt as though everything had been "tightened". I can't think of a better way to describe it. Priapus didn't seem to roll as easily, there seemed to be more drag from regen, etc. about 15,000 miles later he's feeling a little looser but unfortunately, it's getting colder. Other than myself, most people don't complain when their mileage is ONLY in the low-60s. But since I was flirting with a 70mpg when I took him in, I noticed.

    I'm sure that when the technician did was perfectly in line with technical spec and when he put everything back he torqued it all just perfectly.
     
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    The #1 thing any service will do is deflate your tires to cushy low 30's. When that happens to me it feels like the whole car is sluggish and pulling an anchor.