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Advice: pulling to the right. Warranty?

Discussion in 'Prius c Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Fahfoofnik, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. Fahfoofnik

    Fahfoofnik Member

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    Hi all,

    In early July I picked up my '13 Prius C Two. In about a month & a half since then, I've put 2,000 miles on it. It's gonna have to be a workhorse like this for many years!

    In the last 3 weeks or so I've noticed that while driving locally (not on expressways/tollways), I seem to have to steer to the LEFT in order to keep the Prius in the middle of the particular lane I happen to be driving. If I straighten out the steering wheel, the car veers to the right on it's own.

    Since this is a brand new car, I'm wondering if it's advisable to call my dealer & ask them to look at it. It's possible my search skills stink, as I tried searching these forums to see if alignment (is that what I'm talking about here?) is covered by Toyota; I haven't found that info.

    Any idea what might be causing this? And, any idea if this is something I'll need to go out-of-pocket for (jeez, I hope not! Just bought the car!)?

    I do drive on some expressways/tollways maybe once, rarely twice per week...and I can't say I notice that behavior doing anywhere from 55mph-70mph. If the "car veers to the right" issue *does* happen on the expressways, I can't say I notice it as much as I do when driving locally.

    I know I could call the dealer / maintenance shop and ask, but I thought I'd float it past you folks first & see if there's something I should know before calling...or if there's something I should do on my own.
     
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    Check your tyre pressures first. Whatever you run them at, the fronts should be the same, so should the rears. And of course they should be sticker values or higher. Use your own gauge, don't rely on a gas station. If you don't have a pump, get one and set your own pressures when the tyres are cold.

    It could be alignment, but you would have had to hit something major (big pothole, 4x4 , traffic island etc) - you would remember doing it. Wear n' tear wouldn't be covered under warranty.

    Have you any steering wheel shimmy (shaking)? Lost any balancing weights off your wheels?

    The C is quite a high car and wanders a bit in cross-winds; had a lot of wind lately?

    Eyeball your tyres to see if all looks OK I would jack up each wheel in turn and spin it to see if anything is binding, like a brake caliper.

    The more you do and know yourself, the less you are at the mercy of the car trade cowboys. If you have to call on their services, try to identify a car behaviour that you can reliably reproduce, and show them. Otherwise they will charge you for fixing what they think it is, even if they are wrong.
     
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  3. jdcollins5

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    I know on the 2010 models Toyota would do a free alignment within the first 12 months or 20,000 miles. I would call your dealer and verify if this is still true for the c.

    Also, check your Warranty Manual. I just checked mine and it is in my manual.
     
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    ztanos All-around Geek!

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    They don't do that anymore.
     
  5. Fahfoofnik

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    Thank you for this!

    I have plenty of tire pressure gauges from my days owning decades-old cars. I'll check this out tomorrow morning, when it's "cool" (and hopefully not 85 degrees F, as it was this morning).

    Though I live in the suburbs of "the Windy City," no, it's not been terribly windy at all since I've owned the Prius.

    The steering wheel/car does NOT shimmy/shake at all, thankfully.

    Will check the pressures when I can & report back. I know I get the tires rotated at 5,000 miles, am almost to half that on my ODO now; what I don't want to do is cause long-term damage by not doing anything about this now.

    The oversteering I'm doing is not HUGE, but it bugs me. I had to turn the steering wheel on my 1988 Oldsmobile Delta 88 (my previous car) decently to the left while driving as the car naturally pulled to the right without steering otherwise. I know for a fact that car needed new struts, but it wasn't worth replacing it so I just lived with it.

    The Chicago area is another city well-known in the US for potholes. There are plenty of them here. Chicago Summers = Construction Season, and I do drive through a few construction zones, albeit way slow and gingerly wherever there are "BUMP" signs or visible faults in the roadway. That may have something to do with it I suppose, I am just concerned about damaging my brand new car & the suspension.
     
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    Some further thoughts :)

    Even with an minor alignment problem you aren't going to do any harm by putting off fixing it until a scheduled service - at worst you might start to get a little uneven tire wear.

    Regular driving at sensible speeds for the conditions won't cause problems; cars are too strongly made for that.

    Do you notice this more when the camber of the road is more pronounced? On the interstate, the right lane is cambered to the right, and the left lane to the left - is there anything detectable in either lane?

    Is it worse when you brake?

    Drive on a empty large flat parking lot, and release the steering wheel - if the car clearly runs off to the right, then there is likely a pull somewhere in the steering or suspension.

    Try swapping the front wheels to see what (if any) difference it makes....
     
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    Thank you again, I'm almost assuredly going to wait 'til the 5,000 tire rotation. I'm not that far off from that right now, almost half way there in a month & half of ownership.

    I just drove on the interstate yesterday, and I tried to take notice; I did have to oversteer to the left to compensate for the pulling; and I tried this in all 3 lanes of a 6-lane interstate. I will say the pulling felt less pronounced than it does on local highways/2-lane roads.

    Where I work we do have a giant parking lot; I'll try that out tomorrow & see if it does pull. The lot is mostly flat.
     
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    The roads in your area are crowned in the middle so water runs off; if your car wasaligned on flat level ground it will indeed try to drift right down the inclined surface.
    Find some deserted place and drive down theleft hand side of the road to see if it then veers lefet. If thats the case your car is good and having to steer left is normal, unless its more than 2 inch f a turn of the steering wheel. If its more than that its up to your dealer whether re-alignment isfree or paid for.
    cheers. good luck.
     
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    I seem to remember some people posting about this problem when the c first came out last year. Search "Prius c alignment issue" to find the old thread.
     
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    I would check tire pressures, I know mine was doing that and the shop foreman told me that the car has memory steering, something about the car remembering its last steering wheel position regardless of how slight.

    In any case they realigned the vehicle and did a cross rotation and adjusted the tire pressures and it seems to be fine now..
     
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    That is a new one ! steering wheels with memory... and no, folks, wheel alignment isn't warranted for more than a hundred miles. In other words detectible right after the alignment.