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Anyone recommend brake component upgrade?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by toyolover, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. toyolover

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    My 2010 GenIII is coming close to 100,000 km with its original brake pad and disc set at all corners. It may still have 10-15% left but I want to find out if anyone would advise to take the opportunity to upgrade the brake components. I have no problem with using Toyota originals but don't know if using better after-market components will give me certain advantage (i.e. in both price and better brake performance.)
     
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    How do you know they need replaced? Many people have gone much farther on the original brakes.
     
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    I am at over 112,000 km. My thoughts when the time comes, go factory OEM. You will not find a better lasting brake system. Any attempt to increase performance would be a waist of money for me.
     
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    At 87000 km brake pump recall service, dealer inspected the brakes and report 30%F/40%R pad left and advise to replace all rotors. I don't really want to follow their advice because they all tend to "over-sell". According to my usage, it should last till about 110000 or 120000 km.
    I just want to prepare my options before the last minute.
     
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    The purpose of my thread is to find out if anyone upgraded their brakes and have better performance than the factory OEM. I am not ruling out the OEM components yet.
     
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    The OEM Brake pads are Ceramics, I don't think there is any better material than that, unless you wanted slotted rotors?

    Like Frodoz said, any upgrade in brake components defeats the purpose of a fuel economy vehicle. Performance brakes only help in braking, not much else. Unless you want to use your Prius to race? :D
     
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    Race against what? A bicycle?
     
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    :ROFLMAO: Careful, they might win.
     
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    haha, I don't know.
     
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    Actually, you are the first one telling me that the brake pads on the Prius are ceramic pads. I am okay with the factory brake performance and its durability. I just want to explore other options to see if upgrading brake pads and/or rotors will bring me even better braking performance (at reasonable price, of course.)
     
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    There is a member who upgraded his pads for autocross. IIRC, the problem he had was that the "high performance" pads work better when heated up. He found the Prius actually uses the brakes so little that the pads don't get to that optimum temperature. So if you replace pads, you may want to take that into consideration.
     
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    For everyday stopping and panic braking, your tires are probably the weak link. The reason for upgraded brakes isn't necessarily for more stopping power, but more for consistent stopping power that stays strong even when its being pushed hard (like racing).
     
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    Unless you drive the car really hard and going by the millage you have already done on your brakes you do not.
    There is no point in "upgrading" the brakes. After all you only normally use them below 7 mph. How good do they have to be to stop from this speed. Regen braking slows you above this speed.
    The fact that the brakes are at the distance they are bear out that fact. Ok there are the occasional emergency stops, but the Prius brakes are usually cold compared with any other car brakes and are most unlikely to fade from overheating in one quick stop.
    The other thing to consider is Toyota had to balance the transition from regen to normal brakes to give as smooth a stop as possible. Increasing the "power" of the normal brakes could on slippery surfaces cause wheel lock in the transition from regen to normal brakes and cause loss of control, and will increase the number of times the sensation of having no brakes for a fraction of a second happens.
    The VSC will also be out of balance if it comes into operation the brakes being more powerful than the system expects and is programmed for. This system on the Prius is remarkably good in snow and ice conditions.

    John (Britprius)
     
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    I'm passing 180,000kms and brakes are still fine but near the limits according to my friendly dealer who I trust. I will overhaul with next oil change.
     
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    Also mud and dust!:D
     
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    Now I don't see any point of upgrading the brake pads and rotors unless I want it stops as quick as a Segway.
    Thanks everyone for their input here.