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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Randy Scott, Jan 27, 2014.

  1. Randy Scott

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    Weird thing happened this evening. About sunset I went out to the front porch and pressed the door lock button on the fob to lock the doors. It honked at me. Never done that before.

    Then it started making a loud clicking noise, like a relay, from under the hood. I went around to the drivers door and pressed the unlock button but the doors did not unlock. Pulled the emergency key out of the fob and opened to door.

    I was thinking maybe it just wanted me to start it up and recharge for a minute. Haven't driven it since last Thursday before a spell of freezing weather on Friday & Saturday.

    Inserted key fob in dash socket & tried to start it - nothing happened except some warning lights on the dash started blinking in time with the relay clicking sound. Turned it off & back on and door locks started clicking like it was trying to lock & unlock.

    Kept turning it off and on, tried to manually unlock or lock the doors. Left the door open and went inside & put a new battery in the key fob, went out to try again. Tried to start it but it would not. Eventually, everything stopped except the "Check Engine" light came on. Car still won't start. Now I can't lock the drivers door.

    Is there a big red "Reset" button I can press & not call the Toyota dealership? I have a job interview on Thursday and hate to miss it or get stuck on the other side of Houston with a car that won't start.
     
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    Check the 12 volt battery.
     
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    Uhmmm...Check it for what?

    First of all...where IS the 12v battery?
    [this thing has been so reliable before that I'm not even sure where the hood release is]

    Can I put a battery charger on it? I think I read somewhere that you can't do that with this car.
     
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    Its in the boot (trunk) on the right hand side as you look in.

    Remove the cover in the corner.

    You will need to remove the flap/cover that covers the spare for full access.
     
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    When the 12 volt battery starts getting weak, weird and unusual things start happening. It is located on the right side of the trunk, behind an access door. If you do a search, there are lots of posts about how to check it out.
     
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    check it for low voltage. you can put a charger on it, but you want to use a correct type. see the threads here on charging. there are also threads for testing and specs. specs may be in owners manual as well. and, there are threads with pics on battery replacement if necessary.
     
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    The rear hatch won't open. The only thing unlocked is drivers door.

    BTW, thanks for your rapid response.
     
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    you can check the voltage, as well as jump start it from under the hood. then open the hatch. or climb in back as above. if you decide to jump start it, be careful not to reverse polarization, damage can be in the thousands.
     
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    Randy,

    I think what everyone is trying to tell you is that your battery is showing symptoms of being discharged. It happens all of the time. The Prius doesn't crank slow like a regular car when the battery gets weak. It just quits like yours did and does all kinds of stupid stuff like what you are seeing.

    Where is it? It should be in the hatch area under the floor boards on the passenger side.

    You asked about a battery charger. Yes, you could try that, but chances are you simply need a new battery.

    If you are mechanically inclined, you can change the battery with little difficulty. If not, get someone to help you. You really don't want the dealer to fix it as it will cost you a lot of money. You can expect to pay in the neighborhood of $175 to $200 for the correct battery. If you have the dealer do the work, you could also expect to pay an additional labor rate for installation of any where from $50 to $200.

    If you know where the jump post is under the hood, you can hook up a battery charger and try to recharge it. The charger should be set on "AGM" and the amperage should be no higher than 4 amps.

    Also, if you have a digital volt meter, you can check the voltage there at the jump post. Below is a table that will give you an idea of what the voltage should be in relation to the amount of charge.

    Battery SOC Chart.jpg

    I suspect you will find your voltage to be somewhere in the area of 11.0 volts or even less.

    Bad timing to do this job with the upcoming Winter storm... (had to do mine last winter in the rain and cold, no fun!)

    Hope this info helps you and best of luck to you!
     
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    If you do try a "Jump Start", use a portable starting pack rather than the traditional way. That will also help you if you are just trying to get the rear hatch open so you don't have to climb in the backend to get to the emergency lever.

    Peak Performance 900 Peak Amp Jump Starter | Product Details | Pep Boys

    I have one of these and it works great. Real handy too when your neighbor needs a jump. So far, I haven't needed it, but other's have. Worked every time.
     
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    Finally got the hatch open by climbing in from the front. The battery has a HUGE plastic connector on top of the type that I usually break when trying to open it. I checked under the hood and don't see any charger posts. Not sure what to do now. Sure hate to have to call the Toyota dealer but this is my only car & if I can't charge it then I make the expen$ive phone call. I don't have the Power pack thing, just an old fashioned charger, but it does have a 4 amp setting.
     
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    the 12v post is under a flip up cover in the fuse box. find a chassis bolt for ground. the top of the battery comes off pretty easily. you can pick up a new battery at auto zone and etc. it's about an hour job.
     
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    "Bad timing to do this job with the upcoming Winter storm...."

    Yes, my arthritis is already crying.

    I found the post under the hood and tried my charger. It's lowest setting is actually 2 amp.

    Put the black wire on a bolt and the red cable on the + post. The horn started beeping and the parking lights started flashing. I tried the key in the ignition and got nothing. By the time I got back to the hood the honking & flashing had stopped. Did I do something wrong? Is this right?
     
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    This is OK as long as your charger is still charging the 12V battery. Make sure the car is IG-OFF (dashboard and MFD should be dark.)
     
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    Thanks Patrick, I'll go out & plug it in again. I was afraid I just fried everything.
     
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    It's plugged in now. I'll go out & check it every 10 or 15 min until it gets too damned cold for my arthritis. If it doesn't respond I'll have to call the dealer because I'm afraid the local stores wont' have a clue what the right battery should be.
     
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    Does your charger have an ammeter or some other means to show that it is delivering a charge to the battery?

    If you should find that the 2A position is not working, you might try the 10A charging position. However do not use the Engine Start feature (or 50A position) if such a position exists. That will provide excessive charging voltage.

    Also, plan to leave the charger on overnight especially if you are using the 2A position.
     
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    It has a meter but I've never been very confident in what it's telling me. It has a 10A setting but I'm afraid to chance it. We're expecting temps below 32F in the morning but I'll keep it charging as late as I can tolerate.