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2010 to 2014 Prius, plug in or not

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by Priusrage, Feb 8, 2014.

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  1. Keep your current one silly!

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  2. Not worth it, just get the regular Prius!

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  3. Totally worth getting Prius plug in! Be perfect for you!

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  1. gallde

    gallde Active Member

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    Unfortunately, Toyota doesn't offer the solar roof vent on the PiP. They figure the ability to remotely turn on the A/C for 10 minutes when the car is charging will substitute for the venting. Not so much.

    BTW, the 11 solar panels on my house create more grid power than my charge uses. And I didn't pay a cent for a charger, a 110-V extension cord from my basement dedicated outlet is plenty to charge in 3 hours. I set the car to start charging at 5am.
     
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  2. DadofHedgehog

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    I agree. Every EV mile means that much less "due maintenance" on the traditional ICE components of a PHEV. Of course, a pure EV has zero maintenance of a traditional drivetrain. OP, if you are getting the itch of a new(er) car, perhaps your circumstances are appropriate to consider a pure EV such as a Nissan Leaf.
     
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  3. Priusrage

    Priusrage Junior Member

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    Wow, so many replies! First thank you everyone for your input! :)

    I had considered a Nissan Leaf. I like them. But with this being the main family car also. If we
    Want to leave town, it can not. If it had say 350 miles a charge I would think about it. But with 100 mile give or take 20. Just isn't enough yet for me. Though I do like them and I think they will eventually get up there in miles were we can afford them.

    My current Prius has the solar panel. I love that feature! On the super hot days it's
    Nice not having to get into a piping hot car.

    I would have to look into the solar panels on the roof idea and how much it would
    Cost. I'm an electrician myself. So installs I can do.
     
  4. DadofHedgehog

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    Exactly why my son and I didn't go for a Leaf last Spring. However, after driving it we both realized, laughing, that a well-made EV means no tune-ups, no transmission oil or oil filter changes, no gas rusting the inside of the tank, no spark plug maintenance, no head gasket leaks, no valve adjustments, no leaking piston rings, no any of that stuff... just an eventual traction battery cell exchange (maybe) and eventual brake pad & fluid changes. What a lot of headaches to get rid of! Our conclusion: the world needs many more Teslas :)

    BTW we ended up bying a 2013 Ford Fusion Energi plug-in. It has 22 - 25 EV miles and an average, confirmed by us on a 7k cross-country Summer trip, of 43 MPG overall.
     
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  5. Priusrage

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    Funny, I was driving to work today. I was thinking, "I wonder when the fourth gen Prius
    Is coming out, should be soon". Lol, tells you how much I've been paying attention lately!

    So, since it is coming out soon. I may just wait and see how much better it is. Can't find
    Anything online about it other than hearsay. Must be they don't want the general public
    To know much so they can finish selling the current model. I know all my friends want one! :p

    I wonder if they will even update the PiP though since they haven't even launched it nationally
    Yet? But when I do upgrade I will for sure get the PiP. Be so cool being able to make my commute
    With not really using any petrol.

    Right now I guess it's both. Car has 120k on her right now. Which I know she has plenty left in her.
    And I got the itch too. Hard call to get the PiP now or wait and see if Toyota upgrades her with
    The Gen IV.
     
  6. mindmachine

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    I just did that in December last year. I had a 2010 IV with sunroof, which I hated to give up, but I wanted the plug-in and I am very happy with my 2014 plug-in advanced. Had it for almost 2 months now and am loving the plug-in. Have not had to buy gas since I bought it. I am retired and drive only short distances to the grocery , church and such. All my trips are within EV range. It is so much fun to drive in EV too. JUST LOVE IT!!!!!
    Plus on the highway when I drove it home from Maryland to Ohio I got a welcome suprise of higher highway mileage. I got 51 mpg driving my 2010 to Maryland and I got 56 MPG driving my new plug-in home.
     
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  7. Priusrage

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    Thanks mindmachine!
    Thanks to everyone again for your replies!
    I guess the question is now. Get the PiP now or What for the Gen IV?
    And it probably would be better to sell my current Prius myself.
    I would for sure get a lot more out of it to be able to put on the new one.
     
  8. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    I voted for him to keep his 2010. It's the same generation and the only potential incentive is to go Plug-in (I wouldn't bother with the Four w/ Deluxe Solar Roof package).

    Yes 200,000 miles is a lot but I doubt your resale value will precipitously drop in 2-3 years. I would wait for the new generation to come out and see if there are cashbacks on top of the 0% financing (because they're trying to get rid of the last generation) or wait 1 year into the new generation and get a new vehicle then. Your car would be 7-8 years old by then. (Assuming a 6-year life cycle for the current gen). Toyotas are fairly reliable and I think the odds are in your favour in terms of having your 2010 last til 2017.


    Oh and while you're at it, take the monthly payment you would've dished out for the 2014 Prius and invest that somewhere. At least you'll get some dividends in 3 years and can use that towards the downpayment or to offset whatever additional value you would lose due to the extra miles.
     
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  9. Redpoint5

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    What is your secondary vehicle? I'd buy a used Leaf to replace that, and keep your current Prius for longer trips. I've seen Leaf's listed for $15k recently on CL. Your commute would be free since you can charge at work, and zero maintenance will save money and headaches.
     
  10. mindmachine

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    Like I said before, I did exactly what you are thinking about, traded my 2010 IV in on a 2014 plug-in advanced.

    I disagree with those who say wait. When the next gen comes out everyone will want one and the price will be higher I would bet. Also when first introduced the next gen is always in high demand and the incentives tend to go away for 2 years or more depending on the economy. Now is a good time as the zero percent financing is a no brainer and the $1000 credit for financing is an incentive that will most surely be removed when the next gen is introduced. Additionally the $2500 tax credit may be gone by then. It is only good for 200,000 cars nationwide and then it is gone. Plus and this is an intangable, but if you can afford it, remember, YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE!

    The old wait for the next generation, wait , wait, the next generation is always out there, how long do you want to wait?

    200,000 miles, your battery pack is out of warranty a long time ago!!!
     
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  11. Mike500

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    YOU MAY ONLY LIVE ONCE, but living the last 20 years of your life POOR might be worst than dying.

    For over 40 years, I drove cheap and used cars. Now, I can buy NEW. And, it was worth the sacrifice.

    I'm retired and over 60 years old. A friend of mine near the same age as I am, had Porches and very expensive cars over the past 30 years, never saved a penny, never worried about money, now has to retire with heart disease and disability.

    He has a 12 year old car with no collision insurance, that he recently crashed and had to pay $3,800 out of pocket to repair.

    He is getting ready to file for bankruptcy. The stress of being in debt and worrying about is contributed to his heart disease.


    Being debt free is GREAT!
     
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    How any body can comment on wether a person they don't know can or can not afford a new car is rediculous. The only advice you can give is, if you like your PIP or not and maybe comment on the type of driving the purchaser will do to save gas and money. Personly I lease a new car every 3 years, haven't driven a old car in the last 25 years, but as they say, sauezch his own!
     
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  13. Priusrage

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    Thanks for the replies!
    My current Prius went for $27k
    So I wouldn't be to far away from paying the same monthly payments.
    I owe about 11k. And she's worth about 13k give or take. Money isn't really a problem.
    I make enough. I have two other cars. But there toys. Stuff I have fun with here and there
    During the summer. If I upgrade to a PiP now. I could always up grade to the gen IV later on
    If it's like 10 times better. The ev mileage would have to be more than 20 miles for me to upgrade. I'd have to say at least 40 or 50 for me to consider upgrading from the current PiP
    If I upgraded now.

    Rude person's has wise words. Thank you! I am about to turn 35 and this next vehicle I would like
    To run for the next say 10 years. Maybe more if she still is running good. I'm getting to a point
    Were I need to make sure I'm set when I would like to retire. But if a vehicle starts giving
    Problems over and over I wouldn't hesitate to get something else in its place.

    Has anyone here tried upgrading the batteries to get farther mileage on ev?
     
  14. mindmachine

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    I am not responding to a financial question about the OP's ability to pay. He ask a question about what would I do and I told him what I did in the same situation not including his finances. He did not give me his financial details so I have to assume that he can afford it.If his 2010 has almost 200,000 miles on it he is close to high maintenance costs anyway. And you will probably shit when I tell you i traded my 2010 in with only 16,000 miles on it.Whatever anyway. Cars depreciate so much every year
    and I say again "YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE" if you can afford it and want it go for it!!!!!
    I am debt free and retired at 66 yrs old, thank you. Except for financing the 2014 prius plug-in in order to get the a$1000 discount.
     
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  15. Priusrage

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    mindmachine I see your in Ohio. What dealer did you travel too and would you buy from them again?
     
  16. Michael33

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    That isn't likely. If larger or better batteries would fit easily, it would already have them. Or to put it another way, they already upgraded the batteries from the prototypes, which used two separate packs.
     
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    I knew of a kit for the regular Prius to make it kind of like a plug in. But of course nothing
    Like how the PiP works all together. You were still tied down with the 25mph max in ev mode.
    There are bigger packs than the one that comes in the PiP. But here not cheap. So most wouldn't
    Get them anyways. Including myself
     
  18. Michael33

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    I don't know if an extender kit is available for the PIP, but it would be too expensive and take up too much cargo space for most people. BTW, the PIP can do up to 62MPH in EV mode. Even the regular Prius can run on electricity only at speeds much greater than 25MPH. That's just the speed at which the 'official' EV Mode disengages.
     
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    Yes your right Michael33. I meant that ev kicks off at. should have worded it different.
    So if you push the excellerator into the second half of the bar but not in the red power
    Part of the bar the regular Prius ice will kick on. I assume the PiP won't kick out? And that
    You can have the excellerator into the second half of the bar? Just not in the red power section.
     
  20. Michael33

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    The PIP has a much larger power bar in EV mode. Yu can get out of it, but not easily by accident, like the regular Prius.
     
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