Another DTC question

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to see if there's something I missed or maybe something I can do before bringing the car to the dealer.

The car: Prius 2006 with 96K miles.

The problem: Break, ((!)) and ABS lights on with audible alarm.

What I've tried: resetting the codes with #4 and #13 and pressing the break pedal several times. Checking the 4 ABS relays, checking every fuse under the hood and in the car. Fuse and relays all seemed ok.

While doing the reset procedure several times the battery gave up on me. It was 4 years old. Got it checked and replaced since it had a bad cell. Was hoping that this would put an end to this issue but no luck I cannot reset the codes.

SRS 43 and 32
((!)) 57
ABS 42

Don't know what they mean.

The car is sleeping outside in the cold (I'm up north)and last week I decided to go to the carwash since it was sunny and somewhat hotter. Maybe this is what caused the problem?

I had a similar problem last year and got the brakes cleaned and put the battery on the charger and got away with it. This time I don't see what else I can do before throwing the towel.

If anyone has an idea feel free to write!

Thanks

Etienne

 

That's the next move I was thinking of. Thanks

 

those were with the jumper in 4 & 13 and from the blinking lights on the dashboard. I counted more than once to be sure.

 

Just back from the Toyota dealer. Does not look good. DTCs 1252 and 1256 that point to a 3k $ bill. I left the car for further analysis. Should have some feedback later this week. The technician is one of the best around here but he has never changed the ABS pump (part # 44510).

He checked the 2 main ABS relays but found nothing.

Is there an easy way for him to check the pump before doing anything else?

I'm thinking I may bring the car back home and try ebay and change the part myself if he concludes that this is the problem. I think some of you have done this with success. I will have to search PC once again to get some more information.

Great thing PC exists with all you guys giving a hand!

Etienne

 

Thanks for the tip Serge. You are correct, I'm in Trois-Rivières (between Québec City and Montreal)!

So I got the call from Toyota a couple of minutes ago... 3200$. There are 3.5 hrs included for the diagnosis. Jeeee, my daughter bought an Echo for that price!

Toyota does not want to do the job if I bring them the part. So my other options are:

1- DIY with used pump at let's say $300 + bleeding
2- DIY with new part available in Kitchener at 1350$ + shipping + bleeding
3- local shop at $68/hr.
4- buy another 06-09 Prius and keep this one for parts.

Toronto is far and there's Rob Ford! (Just kidding)

If I could convince myself that the DIY is viable and that I won't finish the job with a couple of bolts still in my hands, I would go with that option.

Another thing that bothers me, is there another problem that caused this issue and that may cause it again?

Thanks again Serge and Patrick

 

Sorry not Serge but Kevin!

 

Hi Patrick,

If I recall, not changing the resistor may lead to some noise but will not affect drivability. Is that correct?

I did read Galaxee's post with pictures of the job and am nervous about going forward, but at that price I think it is worth the try. Just called the local used part dealer and I could get the part tomorrow for $150.

I will consider your suggestion for techinfo.toyota.com.

Thanks

Etienne

 

Back home with the car. $300 for the diagnosis.

Question: Are their different mini VCIs? If so, which one should I choose?

Thanks

 

Decided to go with:

Fotga Newest V8.00.034 MINI VCI for TOYOTA TIS Techstream Diagnostic Cable & Software


Thanks

 

Decided to go with:

Fotga Newest V8.00.034 MINI VCI for TOYOTA TIS Techstream Diagnostic Cable & Software


Thanks

 

Wanted to let you know that I finally got the job done. Took a while as we had a pretty cold spring and the car was sitting under a car shelter.

It was easier than I thought. I read a lot of info on this forum and looked at the procedure before starting. Bought the Techstream kit for bleeding.

Once you get around at disconnecting the electrical connectors (all have different ways to lock and unlock), the rest went pretty smoothly. Reassembly went better than expected.

Bleeding was not so hard. Lack of experience made it longer, but in a garage with the car up and all wheels off, can't imagine taking 90 minutes going through the bleeding process (that's what the Toyota tech told me).

Had the 12V go dead twice while doing this procedure. Did not have the right battery charger. Also, the computer lost communication with the car a couple of times, which meant starting over many steps as there are no "skip" option in the software. Finally, my computer's antivirus gave me some trouble as it detected malware each time I started the software. Had to "repair" the software driver twice to get the thing to work and turned off the antivirus.

Things I had on my side to successfully get this job done was:

1- Had a second car so I was not depending only on the Prius;
2- I have some experience working on cars. Not a professional but not a complete neophyte;
3- Access to procedures and Priuschat.

Can easily imagine coming out of the Toyota dealer feeing you have no choice other than spending $3k on your Prius. They don't make it easy on you either, making you feel irresponsible for not letting them do the job.

What about the money?

- They wanted $3450 txs incl. for the diagnosis and the repair.
- Cost me around $300 for the used part, prestone, brake fluid and Techstream) + $300 for the diagnosis = $600.

Thanks everyone!


Etienne