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No Range Anxiety for THIS Tesla Driver

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by hill, May 2, 2014.

  1. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

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    Tesla driver travels 12,000 miles plus – spends zero on gasoline - The Orange County Register

    31 states in 24 days. I wonder if he had Johnny Cash playing in the background,
    "I've been everywhere man"
    :p

    From this read, it was apparently sponsored by the online charge/map company recargo:
    Tesla driver completes 12,000 mile cross-country journey - San Jose Mercury News
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    70AARCUDA Active Member

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    There's a BIG difference between a STUNT and a TEST. A TEST has scientific-basis and goals and criteria to accomblish, a STUNT has publicity-basis and little else.
     
  3. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    I followed his whole journey on twitter. It was really interesting. Very nice guy who responds back most of the time on twitter.
     
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    i bet you he had a lot of range anxiety. that's the problem with golf carts they don't have enough range for road trips.
     
  5. hill

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    wow . . . what was it - 160 years ago that folks crossed the U.S. territory in covered wagons? so much for the old 'can-do' attitude that got us here.
     
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    mrbigh Prius Absolutum Dominium

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    I have a feeling that a Volt driver joint us lately...........:unsure:
     
  7. Troy Heagy

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    Range anxiety? Hardly. Tesla carries as much juice as my old 80s Plymouth (260 miles per tank). Quote: "Hajjar estimates his average drive per charge was 120 to 130 miles. He'd stop at Supercharger stations, and fill the average one-hour charging time"

    That seems slow. Tesla advertises it can do 360 miles charge each hour, so it should have been 20-30 minutes.
     
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    Numbers do seem a bit off.

    However, the charge does taper off as the batteries 'fill up'.

    The maximum is around 300-320 amps or about 375 miles per hour. If the car is near empty that will give you about 170 miles in the first 30 minutes.

    The "hour at each stop" may have referred to how long he stayed at each stop, not how long the car charged. So for example, he drove 130 miles, started charging, went and grabbed lunch, rr break, picked up munchies for the road, etc.
    Car finishes charging in 20-35 minutes, but he doesn't get back for an hour.
    Thus, it was an hour stop.

    Or, he could have had a Max charge, driven 130 miles, and then topped off at the supercharger.
    This would have started the taper almost immediately. Although it still shouldn't have taken a full hour.
     
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    Link? The figures I see on Tesla's website are not as big as you state.
     
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    I think he is using a very loose definition of "advertises".
    I suspect he really means 'I saw a Tesla owner post they had a momentary charge rate of 360 miles/hour'.
     
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    Tesla Charging | Tesla Motors "170 EPA rated miles in as little as 30 minutes". So it can do upto 360 miles/hour charge and will show you that value on the computer screen.

    This guy said he drove 120-130 miles so his recharge should have been ~20 minutes time, not a whole hour. (Unless he ran his battery over 80%, which is possible, but not recommended by Tesla as it shortens lifespan.)
     
  12. Zythryn

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    Fuzzy1, I was wrong, he is using bad logic AND bad math.
     
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    And likely poor reading comprehension too.

    How much of the supercharger sights have been upgraded from 90 to 120 kw?
     
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    Ooops 340 miles charge each hour. Oh well..... let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
     
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    "...to err is human..." thus, making "errors" is merely confirmation of one's 'membership' in humanity (wink,wink).
     
  16. BadAssPrius

    BadAssPrius I got to make my Prius stand out all on its own!

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    Those Tesla's are really nice. Now they have more super charge stations too.
     
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    That part of the misstatement is small enough to be passed over without comment. The other parts are more glaring.
     
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    Rereading my post I see no misstatement other than 340 charge miles/hour. I suspect there is none.
     
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    That blindness is not the least bit surprising, given your history.

    Look again at Tesla's Supercharger page. The battery can soak up 170 miles of charge in 30 minutes with a 120kw supercharger. But how many of the superchargers on the above route have the new 120kw version, vs. the older 90kw version?

    "We will soon roll out 120 kW Superchargers, which are 33% faster than our current version ..."

    Also, look at Tesla's "RATE OF CHARGE GRAPH". The second half hour is slower than the first, so a full hour gets much less than 340.

    "Charging the final 20% takes approximately the same amount of time as the first 80% due to a necessary decrease in charging current to help top-off cells."

    The graph shows 1 hour 15 minutes to get the full 265 mile range.
     
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    Oh okay..... you could have just said that, rather than play high school-style games. You could have said, "Troy it only does 170 miles/ half hour on the new chargers, not the older 90 kilowatt versions," and I would have replied: Thanks for the correction.

    And yes I'm aware the final 20% takes longer. If I recall correctly the marathon driver did not charge the final 20%, because he didn't need to. It's also unwise if you want to preserve battery life. (shrug)