Tesla sales banned in New Jersey

Texas you can see the car at the tesla show room, but they can't sell it to you or even tell you the price. All they can do is tell you about the car, the in state maintenance facilities (there is one with a super charger conviently located by restaurants so you grab a bite and supercharge. They do let you drive it.

They can't do any selling, all they can do is refer you to the website. Tesla can't even work with in state financing, if you want to finance it with your out of state tesla rep, its out of state lease or financing. You can of course finance purchase through your own in state source, but you have to work out of state to lease it.

This doesn't stop texans from buying them though. I see more teslas than leafs in austin. I think the new jersey law makes the rules like they are in texas, but the legislature there will probably allow sales through 4 stores in state.

 

New "slang" for the American Slang lexicon:

• Old: "Banned in Boston"
• New: "Banned in New Joysey...and...Tejas"

 

NJ incentive is up to $4000? sales tax reduction for BEV, right?

NJ has a sales tax (7%) exemption on the purchase of a new or used EV. There is also a tire tax exemption on a new EV. Used cars are not subject to the tire tax. Registration fee for the Model S is higher because it weighs as much as an SUV.

 

Used cars and used EVs are subject to the tire tax for replacement tires.

 

Is NJ strictly applying a weight based registration fee to all vehicles now? Years upon years ago, I heard someone complain about having to pay more to register a Ranger even though it was lighted than many mid and full size cars.

That's how it was in Pa with my Ranger. Of course, my friends heavier Tahoe was classified as a station wagon as opposed to a truck for the Ranger, and thus had a lower fee.

So, I expect this is just BS to stick it to Tesla. Toyota better stay on Christie's good side then. The PPI weighs as much as a SUV* too.

*Mazda's lightweight CX-5

 

Is NJ strictly applying a weight based registration fee to all vehicles now? Years upon years ago, I heard someone complain about having to pay more to register a Ranger even though it was lighter than many mid and full size cars.

That's how it was in PA with my Ranger. Of course, my friends heavier Tahoe was classified as a station wagon as opposed to a truck for the Ranger, and thus had a lower fee.

So, I expect this is just BS to stick it to Tesla. Toyota better stay on Christie's good side then. The PPI weighs as much as a SUV* too.

*Mazda's lightweight CX-5[/QUOTE]

The weight limit is 3500 pounds, $59 vs. $84 within 2 model years. Older than 2 model years is $46.50 vs. $71.50.

 

Color me surprised then.

 

The latest in NJ.
New Jersey May Lift Ban On Tesla Sales

 

White House Responds To Tesla Direct-Sales Petition: Sorry, Talk To Congress

 

Guess Elon Musk must not have pay up today while he is in the Bay Area.

 

The president does not make the laws (which he frequently forgets), so his response was the correct one.

 

The president has a pen and a phone. Something that I am guessing he may regret saying. The whitehouse probably does have power correctly on interstate commerce, and has a phone to call legislatures. I am sure he is much busier on fund raisers (he screwed up traffic in austin on one, and wouldn't even look at the illegal kids, making democrats and repubicans here mad). Ukraine, ISIS (Syria, Iran, Iraq), Iran nukes, gaza, 100,000 illegal kids, etc are probably more important than tesla though.

 

+1.

I doubt he forgot. It is that he makes the laws when his boss(es) tells him to pay up.

 

Just bidding up the price the Republicans have to pay for their Congress critters.

Bob Wilson

 

I guess if you consider executive orders to be laws then he has made far, far more laws than the people we are paying to do so. But far less than the deceiver, I mean decider in chief before him. And of way less significance than the laws that the scotus is pulling out from inside the back end of its collective black robe.

DROID X2 ? 2

 

I bet this was the issue and just stupid to me. So Tesla finds a better way to sell cars that customers obviously enjoy more than being attacked by vultures at a dealership. Let people choose how they want to buy a good rather than dictating to us that we have to buy new from a third party dealer.

 

Gooberments are more interested in THEIR "gravey-train" than YOUR meanial automotive-buying interests.

 

Texas has a new PEV incentive right? $2500 for PiP but you have to purchase in Texas so that is big limitation for PiP and Tesla.

In NJ, the BEV tax exemption applies to out-of-state purchases, for example, I believe Dianne Whitmire had some RAV4 EV busniess from NJ to get the $4000 off. At $4000 off for EV, NJ has one of the highest incentives...

...not quite as good as CO ($6k), GA($5k) and WA state also has sales tax exemption (going off 2015), and Wash DC has sales tax exemption on all vehicles over 40 MPG CITY EPA.

 

The owner of a large toyota dealership, and the head of gulf states toyota got it passed. They specifically got the size down to include the pip and exclude out of state purchases. McColmbs also has a ford dealership, so he gets the incentives on energi's. This is the second anti-tesla law these two billionaire toyota dealers have gotten through the texas legislature. This was done to hurt tesla, and to help persuade toyota to sell plug-ins in state. I really can not understand why toyota wants to keep plug-ins from there texas dealers.

I see quite a few tesla's in austin, more than leafs. I believe 9% of teslas are sold in texas despite the law, and these are mainly clustered in austin, houston, and dallas. Austin, if you allow the utility and doe to track your charging, also will pay for you charger as part of a program to identify charging habits and electronic miles of the various plug-ins. Lots of volts here too. I have yet to see a pip in texas. There are fewer leafs but that is probably because of hot weather and the battery, which they may have addressed in the 2015 model.

New Jersey has high incentives but I don't think they really are getting the vehicle mix because of charging patterns and weather. Atlanta is number one for the leaf because of its incentive for bevs.