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4th generation coming 2015!

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by edmcohen, Nov 6, 2012.

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    oh really then I can see more incentives to center more on performance....it could be bad and good....
     
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    I'm not sure how to feel about the renderings. I think it looks edgy and cool, but I'd say the renderings are probably 70% accurate.

    If the dash looks at all like from what I can see, I won't be getting a G4. I'd be disappointed if they made the dash traditional with all the instruments clustered through the steering wheel down low.

    And the peak of the roof moved forward again like the G2. Makes me wonder about headroom, yet headroom was never an issue for me in the G2 and I'm 5'8.
     
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    I just saw what the rear of the mule spy shots remind me of.
     

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    Wow, that's a trusted source that specializes in automotive news. "Master Herald": Basically an 'all types of news' source.

    Listen to Car and Driver, Edmunds, Kelly Blue Book, Consumer Reports, Hybridcars, Greencarreports and other automotive journailsts.

    Easy to see the above is a 3rd gen with a custom bumper package.
     
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    It has accurate statemnt in it:
    "Toyota Motor Corp. has delayed the start of production for the fourth-generation Prius from next spring (2015) until December 2015"
     
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    Was that the first model Toyota applied liftback too?
    I think the illusion of a trunk will make the new Prius looks more acceptable to more people though.
     
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    And we need one year old articles repeated because of .... ?

    I suppose because there isn't much new info to talk about on 4th gen Prius ... after 6 years and 2 months since the arrival of 3rd gen on dealer lots on US West coast.

    Click on 'production begins links in chart in link. Nov 30 2015 IIRC

    Everything we know for sure about the Gen4 | PriusChat
     
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    we're bored and tired of waiting...
     
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    Probably 1.5 months left to wait before we see anything substantial.
     
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    What are the upcoming car shows ?
     
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    no idea, but it's supposed to be revealed in frankfurt on 9/17.
     
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    I'm banking that we will see and know some details and design like 2 weeks before that show.
     
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    2016 or 2017 ?
     
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    Interesting. Auto Express seems to be suggesting that the 4th gen will be exclusively 4-wheel drive-ish... which on the surface of how they described it, makes some degree of sense.

    The fly in the ointment is that I don't think the HSD, being both "transmission" and high-current alternator (and starter motor, but that can be ignored) can be downsized past a certain point, as it needs to be 1) at least powerful enough to contain the torque of the ICE, and 2) have enough capacity to efficiently convert the ICE's output to charge. How much mechanical advantage the HSD motors have and what their RPM/current limits are (not to mention the "sweet spot" of energy conversion in either direction) is something engineers might be able to tell us. But I suspect that the addition of the rear motor drive (with its attendant diff and universals) will not result in greater overall efficiency than simply a bigger HSD with the capacity of both motors, unlike that of the Tesla dual-motor implementation (which of course neither of which has to play a role as a transmission/alternator to an ICE).

    I'm sure there will be a AWD-ish version of the Prius... but I find it hard to believe that it will be the only version, given how much Toyota struggled to reach their self-targeted 10% efficiency gain.
     
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    u/k article with many assumptions masquerading as fact. according to grumpy, no one in the u/k even cares.
     
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