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Liquid sloshing sound when Turning Car off/on

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by TheWiredWorld, Aug 21, 2015.

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    Hello - some of you may know my name by now - I recently bought an 09 Prius, and I'm thinking the previous owner did not disclose a lot of things...

    Anyways, What seems to be the FINAL boss in my fight against used-car ownership, is whenever I turn the car off or on, I hear a pretty audible sound of coolant (I'm guessing, but it's just liquid) sloshing around, what seems to be, right behind the center console area, and I can hear the electric pump trying a little harder than normal.

    I understand that when you turn the car off, the pump puts hot coolant into a thermos to reduce start up time. I recently had the Coolant Flow assembly replaced, and I noticed it was happening - we (me and the mechanic) both just thought it wasn't bled properly, so we bled it twice - the second time I watched him do it and he DID do it VERY thoroughly.

    Does anyone have any idea what this could possibly be?

    The dealership wants $145 (before taxes) just to LOOK at it.
     
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    1. Any warning lights on?
    2. Does the cabin heater work OK?
    3. Do you hear any air bubbling in the heater core?
    4. How is the fluid level in the radiator (must remove radiator cap to look inside, do not rely upon the fluid level in the overflow reservoir)

    If your answers are no, yes, no, and full; then don't worry about the sound of the engine coolant heat recovery system pump.
     
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    it could be your gas tank, is it in back?
     
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    No sir, and you're right, I should have said where it's coming from, sorry. It's kind of like, right behind the center console.
     
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    patrick probably nailed it then.
     
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    No warning lights on, cabin heater seems to work fine, yes, and the fluid level is fine (just had it topped up), and I'll go turn it on in a bit and see if I hear bubbling.

    If I do hear bubbling, what should I do Mr. Wong?
     
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    Update: I definitely hear what I'd describe as bubbling when I run the heater.
     
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    Therefore, your car has air in the heater core. You can deal with that issue yourself.

    1. Make the Prius READY
    2. Turn the heater temp control to MAX HEAT and turn the vent fan to maximum speed.
    3. While the car is in P and stationary, rev up the engine as fast as it will go, which is only ~3K RPM or so. Keep revving the engine for 10 minutes - or until you no longer hear air bubbling in the heater core.
    4. Make the Prius IG-OFF and let the engine cool down.
    5. Check the radiator fluid level in the radiator itself as well as the overflow tank after the engine is cold; replenish as necessary with the correct Toyota Super Long Life Coolant.
    6. Drive the car and make sure you no longer hear air in the heater core - if you do then repeat 1-5 above.
     
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    Oh wow, that does seem easy enough, thank you so much Patrick! I'll do this now and report back.
     
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    Alright, I did that for about 10 minutes, and the slosh when I turned the car off did seem less, though it still sounded like water was being dumped somewhere.

    Some weird things I heard:

    Are you sure you didn't mean neutral? The car only responded to me pressing the gas pedal (audible hearing the engine revving up) like twice. At one point the car decided to rev down while my foot was still on the gas pedal. I pressed it multiple times and only heard it rev up twice in accordance with my foot.

    Also, would actually driving the car while doing this achieve the same effect, or does it have to be in park?
     
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    You can try revving the engine while in N.

    The reason I suggest doing this while the car is sitting there on your driveway is so that the engine is not stressed by being under load while air remains in the system.

    Actually driving the car would achieve the same effect if you are driving at a sufficiently high speed - 70 or 75 mph for example - to get the engine RPM up at a sustained high level. However if substantial air remains in the engine coolant system then you run some risk of engine damage. When the engine is under load moving the car, it is generating much more heat energy.
     
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    Do you have any idea why the car would not be responding to the gas pedal while parked? It's simply not revving.
     
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    in neutral? in park, it charges the battery, and may be unwilling to put more charge in.
     
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    I do not know. I am able to do that with my 2004 and 2007.

    Perhaps you need to put the engine into inspection mode.

    Can't get inspection mode | PriusChat
     
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    All these Prii models have changed so much and are all so different that it is difficult to say what is normal anymore.Without running out to my garage and checking, I believe tht my PIP and my C model will not allow me to run the engine in neutral. However, both will allow me to run the engine in drive, parked in my driveway. all brakes on. This is a good procedure for flushing debris out of engine or for force charging the HV battery.. Can also be used in inspecting and checking the coolant and heater systems. Air in any coolant system happens easy if the system is opened anywhere and not properly bled. Hopefully all this rambling has aided a bit.
     
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    PS. Patricks suggestion of inspection mode is probably safer. I found it necessary to bleed all petcocks which included one under and to the rear of the engine block.
     
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    Only the 12V will charge. The HV only charges in drive. Altho, if I coast in neutral for a mile or so with my C, after returning to drive it will reward me with 2-3 Mpg more. That is a nice improvement and one that Toyota keeps quiet about. Maybe I missed it in the owners manual ?
     
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    i thought when you went to the car wash, if you put it in neutral, it told you to put it in park so the battery will charge. is that the 12v? ah, my mistake.
     
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    Cant say, I wash my car myself.
     
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    me neither, i never wash my car.