1.5 cents per mile instead of gasoline tax

That is only two of the common affiliations. My region has many of other affiliations, mostly independents, greenies, libertarians, and socialists.

 

No big anarchist mobs or succession the Canada movement eh?

 

Oh, I forgot the anarchists. They mob here every May Day and WTO meeting.

 

So-o.. what do they think of per mile tax?

 

So they are reversing the formula. Per gallon gas tax penalizes high fuel consumption vehicles when converted to cpm and 1.5 cpm, or any amount per mile, penalizes low fuel consumption vehicles when converted to per gallon rate.

 

A way of fairly taxing plug ins for road use will need to be addressed, but they are a tiny number of the fleet right now, and aren't getting by tax free. This an issue that can wait.

If revenue is down from fuel taxes, it isn't because of the plug ins, but because fuel efficiency for all vehicles tied to a fuel pump is rising. Raising the fuel tax is the straight forward, cost effective solution. Those that drive more or have heavier vehicles will pay more. The funds collected are(mostly) within the state of road use. There is no privacy issues or the cost of setting up odometer reading systems.

 

The only exception to that I see is California with 60% of plug-in sales.

 

But what percent of cars on the road are plug ins?

Higher plug in sales means that California will need to address how to tax them sooner than other states. In addition to the question of how many there are compared to pump tied cars, the tax rates on electricity, and how many plug in owners have home solar and such need to be considered when answering the question of when a road use tax on plug ins is needed.

 

The (as yet un-approved) Transportation Bill has some recommendation to charge EV's a small fee. In my mind that is a memo to California.

 

In my mind, it's Congress passing the buck on addressing the federal gasoline tax.

 

I agree...as far as I know no plan to increase taxes, they plan to pull in funds from other sources. But I presume CA may be complaining about less Fed rebate dollars (since they are paying in less with plugins).

 

Yet Congress is a significant majority Rep! I wonder how and why that happened? I am Green Party, where is my representation in Congress?

I hope so! That way visitors who come to our marvelous State will pay their share for road maintenance.

Stupid is as stupid does! When I visit one of those marvelous States I will pay NOTHING for their road maintenance!

I hope so!

 

I presume the DMV would have the ability to identify and flag vehicles by any criteria chosen. They also should be able to average mileage for similar cars to know how much joe average pays in taxes at the pump. Then they just add that much to the annual registration for the plug ins while everyone else pays at the pump as usual.

 

Although I don't like the milage tax, as long as the voters in Oregon want it, I don't see why they do much harm to the country. This is politics, and no one wins politics on the internet, otherwise trump would be king and in jail, there would be no gas tax, a huge wall across our southern border, etc. The damaging thing to liberty would be gps.

You can see oregon is not one of the bad road maintainers.
Where America’s worst roads are — and how much they’re costing us - The Washington Post

California ranks high in gas taxes (number 2 I beleive) so high gas taxes alone don't mean well maintained roads.

California and NJ are amoung the highest cost states to build and repair roads. Here we have measures of the least effective governments, and having lived in California in the past, its easy to see how instead of just efficiently building roads, they spend a lot of time trying to build complex regulations, sweetheart loopholes to allow industry to bilk taxpayers and contribute to reelection campaign. NJ well, we have the history to blame. If you charge taxpayers a lot of money for roads (per mile), and you have the worst roads in the country, it may be time to examine the reason.

No gps tracking. That is the part that really offends me. Sure if oregon wants to experiment let it, but I expect that taxes per mile will need to increase just like the gas tax per gallon. You want to drive the kids to disneyworld or drive an efficient car, oregon will cost you more, to be "fair" to those driving guzzlers.

 

Now you have just built a dis-incentive and penalty for purchasing and driving a fuel efficient car. You also need to "add that much" to gas guzzlers, heavy vehicles, polluters, high milers, etc.......which gets us back to a simple tax at the pump.

And how does your plan address out of State drivers?

 

That's what happens when part of the "road maintenance" gas tax goes to support the General Fund!....and Texas is no different.

 

I doubt there is an ideal solution. And I did say pay at the pump. Figure out how to get a plug in to pay at the pump and I'm all for not changing a thing. I merely made a suggestion of one method of collecting an amount from plug in drivers similar to the amount collected from joe average in his petroleumagnum 2000 gas/diesel powered 2/4/6 wheeler.

 

Quite true, our state tax policy in Va. gives low priority to taxing out-of-staters. For example, no road tolls on I95.

 

Actually texas pays very little for road maintenance, I'm screwed in Austin as the federal government and the state have not improved the interstate for all the growth, and all the trucks from mexico. The money they do spend is effective, but we need more roads, and not more toll roads. Different problem. Instead of an interstate bypass, as every other city our size has, we got a toll road, payed for by state bonds, and run by a foreign corporation. Those that pay can use it, the big trucks to and from mexico that don't stop in austin, yep, they aren't going to pay extra, they go through town. Different problems here. We have low gas tax and not enough roads. Texas gets the least back from the federal government on gas taxes that any state pays. Texas pays for roads out of the general fund though, california does some accounting tricks to make you think that gas taxes are going to the genaral fund, but very little goes to the genearal fund, and I would bet it works out to less than 0. From the federal gas tax, texas gets back about what it pays in, every other state including california get that money plus some from the general fund.

Roadshow: How much gas tax money goes to California roads? - San Jose Mercury News

For efficiency, California is rotten. Lots of problems here but.
Reason Foundation - Ranking Each State's Highway Conditions and Cost-Effectiveness: Wyoming, Nebraska and South Dakota Are Best; Hawaii, Alaska and New Jersey Are Worst
Alaska and Hawaii have good reasons for being expensive. After them the states are

New Jersey is the worst, but California does things almost as bad. These 8 states could really be doing things much better.

Charge BEVs $100 more on registration in Oregon, and they will end up paying more than a prius in state gas tax. Its fairly simple. I don't think they need to do that until plug-ins reach 5% of the fleet, which is a long way off, and at that time they can adjust the amount. No reason to discourage plug-ins when they are less than 1% of the oregon's fleet.