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FIRST DRIVE REPORT: 2016 TOYOTA MIRAI

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  1. usbseawolf2000

    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    Pretty good for a limited roll out model. It has the same battery pack as in the Camry hybrid -- proven to last.
     
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    parked at Ontario Airport ... LOT 5 .... skin in the game ... any more questions? because I still have the same question ....

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    That same question .... what can I do to get you into a hydrogen car - maybe I'll check at the dealer, presuming you have at least signed up? You HAVE at least signed up .... right? After all - many of those 600 will drop out due to not being close enough to a station - and/or poor fico scores. You DO want one, don't you? Let me help . . .
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    It is the minimum required by CA law.
    If they truly believe in it why not give it more than the minimum?
    Say 8 miles, unlimited miles?
     
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    Even if the pack does lose capacity, all it means is that the car won't have as much power. So for example you might only be able to do 55 or 60 pulling a hill.
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    Well congrats on the Leaf!

    No I have not signed up, as I already have too many cars and just added one at the start of the year, but I can certainly see myself in one in another few years. So I will be certain to let you know when it happens.
     
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    At 15mph, I would hope it would be uneventful.
     
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    And that's not a crash.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Just trading paint.:D
     
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    Continuing in my best Crocodile Dundee voice: This is a crash! :eek:

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    Ouch :eek:
     
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    Wth!!!!:eek:
     
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    I remember that wreck from about a year ago. The dark car was a SoCalTesla, stolen, speeding over 100 mph while running from the police. The crook lost control and the Model S was sliced in half when it hit a light pole (besides the other car), as the back half of the Tesla was flung in between two buildings. Par for the course, the driver all the model S, although injured, actually survived.
     
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    So all the white stuff is lithuim? Or just fire extinguisher?
     
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    Could be ash?
    There isn't much lithium in lithium batteries?
    The pole the car hit was actually a traffic signal pole. Those are heavily reinforced. The car would have simply sheared off a normal light pole.

    Although the unbelted thief survived the impact, he did later die of his injuries. He was the first fatality in a Tesla.

    Although I hope it never happens, I would be curious to see the results of such a catastrophic collision in a car with 10k psi hydrogen tanks.
     
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    The Tesla's lithium battery exploded into flames that shot up several stories into the air. White areas on the street are where the fires were. The other car was a Honda Civic and the driver and passengers survived.
     
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    It could be very bad, depending on the location of where it happens.

    The odds of surviving a crash like that of the Tesla above is very low in any personal car. The 'what if' with a gaseous hydrogen car is whether the tanks manage to avoid damage that could result in sudden loss of pressure. 3000psi is enough to turn an air tank into a missile.
    Fire bad. Explosion worse.

    In the case of this crash, the fire damage appears limited to the car itself.
     
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    A car fire is never good for any car or driver. My point was that the Tesla did catch on fire. So would The Mirai have caught on fire in a similar accident, who knows? The Mirai tanks are made to withstand a fire and impacts.
     
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    The Mirai cannot achieve the same very high speeds or rate of acceleration of the Model S, so it would be nearly impossible to replicate the same type of accident. ;)
     
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    Mirai's top speed is 111 mph. Not sure the speed this accident happened at, probably below that.

    Mirai is lighter also, hence less energy in the impact.
     
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