High fuel consumption?

Here's the calculated numbers we've been getting, over the course of a year. This is with a regular Prius, 2010, with the 17" rims and wider profile tires through most of the year, which impose a bit of a penalty. In winter, typically mid-November, I put on 15" snow tires, and sometime in April they'll come off.

You can see it's up and down some, depending on the type of driving, trip duration.

 

See my Fuelly fuel economy chart since I bought the Camry:
The weather here can vary from -30C in winter to +30C in summer so obviously car fuel consumption can vary wildly.

 

Wow. Camry, with central Canada winters, you're serious.

 

I live in Canada too, and I have an Echo hatchback CE and a Prius C. I brought the 2 cars brand new!

Average for my Echo (85% highway, 15% city) is 6.8 liter/100 KM.
This is litteraly a tank!! 230 000 km with only a wheel bearing to replace!

With the C, for the same commute, I got 4.9 liter/100 km.
130 000 km, and nothing yet! The brakes are like new! This is a really great car! Trunk space are twice my Echo hatch.

 

It's a great car and I love it and so much more of a car than my previous HCH-II ever was at not-much-worse fuel economy.
I'm getting a bit jealous of my wife's C though. We took it over the weekend to go visit her sister about 60km away with 4 adults in the car in all sorts of conditions: city, highway, fast, slow, traffic, etc. and managed to get 3.4l/100km on the way there! (me driving) I was blown away.
If I had to replace the Camry ahead of time, I would definitely consider the C...

 

We had an 06 civic hybrid. Still in the family, on its second hybrid battery. Really feels a step down for smoothness, just comparing to our Prius.

 

Mendel, I enjoyed reading your posts in the HCH-II forums back then. You taught me a great deal about hybrid cars and driving them when I was considering getting one and then learning to extract the most out of them on the roads. Thanks.

Mine was a 2008 and I decided to get rid of it back in 2013 when I started getting battery problems while the dealer insisted everything was normal and charged me for the diagnostic. Haven't regretted once switching to a Toyota Hybrid (now two). That little C is so much fun to drive and the fuel economy makes up for the limited power (compared to a TCH anyway!)

 

I am sure this has already been mentioned in this thread that apart from the weather, the trip duration, the nature of the route etc. the driving technique is a huge factor. When I just bought my C, I drove it as I would a regular small car for the first two weeks, and got the fuel economy of a non-hybrid small car - somewhere around 6 L/100 kM (or 40 mpg in caveman's terms ). With more careful and a lot less ambitious driving this was improved to average 4.4 L (or 55 mpg) - the same car, only different techniques.

 

Besides driving technique, just changing your drive types can make a difference. Back a decade, I'd think nothing of hopping in our (stone cold) car, driving the 3 blocks to the beer store. No more, walk now. And cut back on the beer too.

 

Engine block heater might help in your cold weather.

 

We order our cars from the dealer with a block heater installed. A must when living in the great white north (aka Canada).

 

I am relieved to see that your onboard fuel efficiency exaggerator is lying even more than mine does .. mine limits itself to 6% or thereabouts.

There is such a thing as dedicated beer store , or just any store would qualify to be a beer store as long as it sells beer?

 

I don't recall noticing a dedicated beer store on my travels through his province. But transiting Ontario and Quebec earlier this month, there was clearly a chain called 'Beer Store': Home | The Beer Store

This article includes a picture of a typical storefront: Ontario accused of changing law to ‘protect’ Beer Store, LCBO - The Globe and Mail

 

Here's a clean copy of the spreadsheet. You do need excel installed to use it. Even if you don't have, you could download and just salt it away, might be useful down the road.

It's set up so that you enter the odometer reading at each fill up. When you enter a fresh odo reading, it uses a formula that subtracts the odo reading of the line above, and puts the result in the trip field. This is slightly cumbersome, but the one big advantage: if you're using the odo value, the car is never going to lose that. Say if your battery is disconnected for maintenance, or someone inavertantly resets the tripmeter.

The only thing, for the first trip value only, you need to enter it manually. Enter the odo, and the calculated (or displayed) trip value for that tank. Then on subsequent tanks, just enter odo value, the trip field will be calculated automatically.

You also need to enter date. It's formulated so if for example you enter "jan 01, 2015", it will display "2015-01-04". If you subsequent edit the value, in the edit field it'll display as "1/4/2015". Excel's US heritage showing, but at least it's consistant.

You also enter liters: to 3 decimal places is best, just take it from the bill.

And I would also enter in-dash (the in-dash display of liters per 100 km), if you've been reseting trip meter at fill ups. This will give you a record of what the car said you did, and also will calculate the error.

That's about it. The right end field is mpg conversion, automatically calculated.

To the right of all this is a few cumulative fields, giving a running average of some of the values.