What I don't like about the 2016 Prius

All this information, but no 2016 available for anything ....

 

beats last week, no car, no info.

 

Pretty sure Touring trims 3 and 4 get you the 17" wheels while the ATP package gets the sunroof, so you can't get those together: too much weight.

 

The 4T already includes:
Toyota Safety Sense (TSS) - Pre-Collision
System w/ Pedestrian Detection, Lane Departure
Alert w/ Lane Keep Assist, Auto High Beams and
Full-Speed Dynamic Radar Cruise Control

The ATP package would add HUD and Sunroof, but its only available an on the 3 or 4.
So technically, on the 4T you would just be missing the sunroof and HUD

 

What? U can't get a 4T with moonroof?


iPad ?

 

And no spare.

 

Short front seat bottom cushions in 2016 Prius, lots of legroom, but poor support for long legs, have to tense and have legs hurting. No dimensions to prove the length of driver's seat bottom cushion, only legroom dimension. Only personal testimony that front seats are comfortable (for them, the 'in' crowd)

No tilt adjust for driver's seat unless reach $29,000 Prius Four level and if want to avoid sh$%^y plastic wheelcovers with that, it's $30,800. Tall, long legged driver's take extra precaution choosing. Looking to rule it out asap.

 

Boo!

So maybe a Prii 4 with hud/moon roof & PPP

Not a big deal.

VS980 4G ?

 

You have evidence of this?

If the cushions are long enough to fully support the upper legs of the tallest people, the shortest people can't even bend their legs because the cushions hit them below the knee in the back of the calf. That makes operating the pedals almost impossible.

 

tall people have no problems with prius, just one guy that i know of. his fingerprints are all over the complaint section.

 

Yeah, and it would take a miracle to have an adjustable driver's seat cushion length. Such technology required for that. They can have an adjustable headrest, but heaven forbid they have an adjustable bottom cushion length.

 

Not necessary. If it's too short, humans have a femur bone in their upper leg that will cantilever their knee over a sufficient distance.

 

this is a huge problem in the auto industry, which has yet to be overcome by thousands of well educated engineer's with short thighs.

 

Looking at all these lovely pictures of this fancy new car, I'm struck by how much I still appreciate the 2004. (Luddite alert!)

The door bins are huge, the centre console has enough room for a box of tissue and then some, the instrument cluster's right in front of you where it belongs....ah, progress.

 

At this point I'm just not very excited about the Gen IV. Toyota took so long to release prices, specs, and MPG that I've partially lost interest.

There is also the growing list of things that our Prius Gen II has that the new one either does not have or we'll have to be searching for the right model to have those things we want, without those we don't. It seems to me Toyota has created a bit of a mess with the purchase experience.

Things I like
- The exterior looks are fine. Not really that important to me.
- High MPG. It looks like about 7 mpg over our Gen II.
- Good interior space
- Very good cargo space. Very important to us
- A decent price (I think). I'm hoping for about $25K
- Amazing Toyota reliability. Zero problems after 158K miles and 7 years.
- The Synergy drive. Just brilliant
- The position of the shift lever is just wrong. The Gen II got it right.

Things I don't like
- Toyota's design decision to put the gauges toward the center of the dash. I never have liked that even after 7 years of ownership
- White fixtures in the interior. I won't have them.
- Loss of glove box space. There isn't even enough in our Gen II.
- Complications over Lithium or NIMH combined with a spare tire or not. I won't buy a car without a spare.
- MPG not as much increased as I was hoping for. It seemed Toyota was promising 55mpg, not 52.
- Altered, more laid back, seating position.
- Three spoke vs 4 spoke steering wheel? Not sure but I'll have to try it.

With these things in mind I'm thinking our next car will be a mini SUV such as the Honda CR-V or the Subaru Impreza Hatchback. Both get into the mid 30s for mpg and offer more cargo space. They are nicely equipped, and they offer the higher, more vertical, seating position.

I'm not saying we won't buy a Gen IV. It's just that the list of negatives have me shopping around when previously there was no question.

 

Comfortable seats is subjective. We'll see...