two eco

^ Maybe not long before they're extinct?

 

The Michelin X Energy LRR tires on my Cmax are rated to 51psi and they come in 15 inch sizes: Michelin Energy Saver A/S

 

The strip plugs also claim to be for temporary repairs, but that is exactly what the tire shop used for a repair the last time I brought a tire with a nail in it to them.

For those that don't have a spare, I suggest picking one of those plug kits, with pliers and boxcutter, for the car. They aren't hard to use, and don't leave a mess for the tire shop to deal with like the goo.

 

I'm a belts-and-braces fan: like having a temp spare and plug repair kit.

 

I didn't bother taking out my spare when I threw in a plug repair kit, but that's because I don't think removing the spare alone is enough weight savings for saving fuel.

 

The last flat we had was in a Costco parking lot, about 10 km from home, and the temp was a bit below freezing, and it was kinda windy. The first order of business was to go into Costco and buy some insulated gloves, something I subsequently make sure to always have in the car now. Then went back out, jacked it up and put on the temp spare, drove it home. This way I was able to do the plug repair in our family room, nice'n warm. And swap the tire back in on in the garage, with floor jack.

 

Tire Rack support tells me these are rated at 867 revs/mile. Unfortunately, this is going the wrong way: How to improve gas mileage in this situation? | Page 2 | PriusChat

Turning faster than 831 means we'll see slower than true indicated speed, shorter than true odometer, and higher than true MPG. I don't need tires that give a rosy picture. Interesting but not my style.

Now the P205/65R16s look interesting but I have 15" wheels. I'm not sure I'm ready to order a pair of rims too.

Bob Wilson

 

I would have kindly asked, assuming the tire wasn't completely flat or they too busy, if I could do the repair in Costco's tire shop. Or if they patch tires.
I keep a pair of mittens in my winter coat pockets.

With the cold we recently got, the pressure dropped in my tires. I tried pumping them up yesterday morning while the temps were in the single digits Fahrenheit. The nozzle gasket on the little compressor was really stiff; making it difficult to get on for a tight seal. I can see where a spare can be better to have, but for the majority of the population in the US, it isn't a need. It's nice, but I wouldn't take a potential car off the list if meets the rest of my needs for not having one.

 

I assume they weren't purchased there. Costco only repairs tires you bought from them. For me I will keep a spare, I've had many flats and most were catastrophic (yes I drive in an area with lots of road hazards) which could not be repaired with goo or plugs.

 

below zero??? where do you have to go for a costco, edmonton?

 

The one and only flat that couldn't be repaired onsite that I experienced was a blow out over 30 years ago. The state I live in is known for the low quality of its pavement, and I've driven down South many times.

 

Costco in Greater Vancouver: Probably below 0 C = below 32 F

 

Yeah it was not a Costco purchased tire. And yup, zero is freezing point, same as 32F.

 

Just to verify, with the II ECO, I can put regular tires (the same that I would put on a II) when the OEMs wear out? Thanks folks!

 

Sure, you just go back to the gas mileage of the other Prius.

 

correct, same wheels. but then, how many mpg's will you lose?

 

Maybe yes, maybe no. There's been a lot of speculation on the ECO mpg and the tires, but if that's ALL there is to it, that'd be pretty bald.

 

No spare, no rear wiper, tires that wear out very quickly compared to other LRR tires (plus a $500 surcharge on the base two) and 60 or so lbs total lighter is all it seems... I'd like to love it as extra mpg's are great but if at the cost of above not so sure and the regular two seems a better option....

Although I will have to wait and get more real world experience from owners and reviews to see if above is accurate.....

 

speculation. as a single item, the tyres are most important. but everything adds up to the extra mpg's.

the problem is, we all know changing tyres is iffy, so when you do change them, who knows what's going to happen?

 

Hi Folks,

Besides no rear wiper, the 2 Eco is said
to have other aero enhancements....

Has anyone indentified exactly what/where
these are?

BTW: Last summer, I finally replaced the original Goodyear Integrity's that came
with my 2005. They had 110k miles on them!!!

I ran 50 PSI front, 45 rear. (which is over the rated 44 PSI. Don't recommend)

Treadwear ratings:

Goodyear Integrity 480
Dunlop Enasave 340
Bridgestone Eucopia 600 !