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Discussion in 'Prius c Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by AZPriusdriver, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. Coast Cruiser

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    Hi AZ and bisco.

    My 2016 is my first Prius. Now that the 12v battery has been mentioned, how long can we expect it to last? (My Camry battery usually lasted 3 years. Then it would just not start one day. With no warnings. Just DEAD.)
    Is the 12v Prius battery just a regular battery? 3 or 4 years if you're lucky?

    AZ, I am very sorry to hear about all the problems with your Prius C. I was convinced to buy a Prius, when I saw so many Taxi Cab companies switching to a Prius. They drive the heck out of 'em,... It must be a good reliable car.... or so I hope. And mine is also always parked outside in the sun. So Cal is not as hot as AZ, but we are always 90 in the summer. (Sometimes in December!)

    Its hard to believe the lack of cooperation you're getting from your dealer. That's totally insane! Those guys usually jump at the chance to take money from people! And you offered to pay, correct? I'm surprised they're not "making up stuff", just to get your business and money. The dealers I visited certainly did! (But on the other hand, if it's truly warranty work, the dealers I visited tend to shy away from that. And/or they would conjure up some other phony maintenance, fake leak, or other false damage that needed to be fixed. Anything to pad the bill!)

    And I never had any help or cooperation from Toyota corporate. They just told me that the dealers are "independent retailers", and Toyota has no control over their dishonest service depts.

    Merged

    If I start having ANY problems down the road, with my new Prius, it's history! Gone! See ya! Bye-Bye! Adios!

    Hosta-La-Veesta! :ROFLMAO: (I don't know how to spell it. Just picture "The Terminator." :cool:)

    You're right, it's a complicated vehicle. And it's no secret that I am not very pleased at times, with my new Three model.

    I would have no problems just going and trading it for a nice cheap Corolla! Or maybe a Honda civic. I'm 61 now, and life is too damn short to be dealing with car trouble! :mad: Especially when a person has more important duties, like elderly parent care.
     
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    the 12v in most prius is small and temperamental. but yours my friend is large and robust. being a new model, i can't say how long it should last. some like to change it at 4 years, prophylactically. mine have lasted 8 years, so i wait until i have problems. since your camry only lasts 3 years, you might consider that your norm, but i'm not sure why you only got 3 years. do you not drive much?
     
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    Hi bisco. I hope I'm not hijacking AZ"s thread. But, yes, I drove many short distances when I had my Camry. That poor car barely managed to warm up! My place of employment was only 2.5 miles away from home.

    I too, was taking care of elderly parents. It was a full-time job for the last 7 years, assisting my mother in her home after my dad died. (My mom passed away last April at 94 yrs of age.) As you and AZ know, elder care involves running many errands, taking them to appointments, doctors, activities, etc... all within 5 miles of her house. I guess my Camry batteries went bad early, from all those short trips.

    It's good to know that the new Gen4 12v battery is robust. I'm retired now, and looking forward to "stretching her legs." My first Prius Hybrid. And I named her "Penelope." (Don't laugh. :rolleyes::))
     
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    penelope clearwater?
     
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    Hate to say this but with all what is going on maybe you should get rid of this car and get something else. Life has enough complications without a car acting up/endangering your life and a dealership that does not care.

    Prius C is a reliable car and there are lot of taxi companies that use it here. Those cars run right throughout the day in hot sun and many of them are probably 2012 models because its the cheapest here. Your car is probably having a problem that can not be fixed easily. So it might be better to think about it. Also remember if you get an external party to fix the car you may lose the warranty.
     
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    The warranty doesn't seem to be helping a lot right now...
     
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    Exactly! Life is complicated enough. My prior cars didn't have issues like this, but of course, they weren't computerized.

    I had a Toyota Tercel for years that was very reliable until it was totalled by an elderly driver who had been drinking and was on a variety of meds.

    Then I had a Nissan Sentra that was great for years and years until it just started stalling/losing power and no mechanic I took it to could fix it.

    Then I bought a used Ford Taurus and it was a dream car. Never had problems with it ever.

    Then my ex-husband bought me a 3 series BMW, which had its problems and required expensive repairs, but I kept it for several years until I traded it in and bought the Prius.

    I never could have afforded a BMW myself nor did I want one. But my ex was very superficial and materialistic, so ... Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just am not.

    I'm thinking of a Honda Civic or a Mazda, but of course I fear buying a used car that's a lemon. On the other hand, the Prius seems to be a lemon too or maybe it's just the techs. I've seen all kinds of complaints about serious issues where people were severely injured, but the dealership said the car was operating normally.

    I don't consider permanent injuries requiring surgery to be "normal". Here's a 2012 Toyota Prius C that was doing the same things my car is doing yet my dealership says mine wasn't part of the recall. Apparently, back in 2013, I should have taken it to this dealership in Virginia cause they fixed it. I hate that Toyota says they are unaware of any problems like this. There are tons of them all over the internet and on the NHTSA site. IMG_20160404_144512.JPG

    I am well aware of all of this, which is why I'm definitely thinking of buying another car. But of course, I fear that too, buying a used car, although I had great luck with them in the past.

    Something less like a computer and more like an "old fashioned" car, like cars they made in the 80s and 90s. I hope they still make some newer cars that way.
     
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    mazda?
     
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    Nope, not at all. Dealership just keeps saying can't find codes, so no problems.

    Apparently, they say that a lot.

    Screenshot_2016-04-04-11-52-05.png IMG_20160404_115355.JPG Screenshot_2016-04-04-11-50-58.png

    Yes, I saw it on a list of most reliable used cars. But it's a specific model and year, of course.
     
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    mazda 3 gets a lot of talk here.
     
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    No, you're not hijacking me. I want to know about every kind of vehicle I can. My mom had a Camry she drove for years and years with no problems, but she bought it in the 90s. So it seems the more software a car has, or if it's a hybrid, it has problems faster. At least that's what it seems to me.

    Or maybe I'm cursed. Anyone know of a good curse removal service in or near Glendale, AZ?

    That's a great name! You're right about the errands and short trips. Even long trips, though, can be a problem. Except in the "winter" here. My car runs perfectly when the temps are about 80° and less.

    Heat just turns it into a different car, which is why I think it's the issue with overheated transistors that my dealership won't bother to check on their own because my model hasn't been recalled. However, in Virginia, a 2012 Prius C had the same issue and the dealership fixed it.
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    Bad or good?
     
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    good, from what i've read.
     
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    Thank you. All the time it's going to take me to do the research ... OMG. I wish my car would just self repair.

    I'm already in need of a new printer and a code reader that's not too expensive and will work with the Prius and all other makes and models.
     
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    you can get a cheap minivci from amazon to read prius codes. but you need an old windows laptop to run it.
    don't think it does anything but toyota though.
     
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    I do have an "old" Windows laptop, I think. It's runnig Windows 8. I think it's a few years old, so that's probably considered old. I also have a dinosaur P.C. running Windows XP, got it in 2004.
     
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    check out the mini vci threads, there's some very helpful info and knowledgeable members.
     
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    The answer that my life experience has taught me about 12 volt lead acid batteries, is 5 years. Anything after 5 years, is borrowed time. My recommendation, is that if and when you get a lead acid battery, stick a sticker on on and write down the date.
    YMMV
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    Most of the new cars do have lot of electronics and its going to get even more complicated in future. So there is no way of avoiding it, the thing is there are millions of reliable Prius Cs running about without any complaints and there are some with problems, but that's not the majority. And then the cars that are hellbent on trying to kill its owners are quite rare. I was using a Toyota Vitz (Yaris in US) for close to 11 years. It acted weird when applying breaks sometimes and this problem came on and off and was not reproducible. But otherwise it was a very reliable car. Anyway as the vehicle gets old it starts developing various problems so wise thing to do is change the car before this begins

    What you can do is stick to a non hybrid car so the complications are less, Toyota, Honda are all very reliable brands (I never liked or trusted Nissan, how could you with designs like the Micra K12 and Juke a.k.a Joke). Honda Fit is a nice little car, if I was not such a hardcore Toyota fan I would have bought it instead of the Aqua.

    Keep us posted on what you are planning to do. Good luck..!!!
     
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    The dinosaur with Win XP might have an easier time of it, than the one with Win 8.
     
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    I agree, AZ. I feel that cars are getting way too complicated with all the advanced electronics, computers, TOUCH SCREENS, texting on the entune system, etc. It's a darn shame you are having so much trouble with your Prius C. They are complicated cars, aren't they?!

    Most of that stuff can become a dangerous distraction; the 2nd leading cause of accidents now?

    I didn't buy the "Touring" model with all the advanced technology stuff. In fact, I watched several videos where they were testing the "collision avoidance / pedestrian avoidance" feature. The Prius failed to stop in several of those tests. I guess you can't be going over 15 mph for it to work? Something like that. I don't know, there just seems like too much electronic stuff that can go bad.

    One owner posted here, that his new Prius keeps beeping when he's in the drive-thru lane at McDonald's! (He's too close to the car in front of him.) And his car starts beeping when stopped at a red light, and pedestrians are crossing in front of him. That would drive me nuts. I think a lot of owners may end up turning some of those features off.

    One of the best cars I ever had, was my old reliable 1995 Camry! I could still be driving that car today, if I wasn't stupid, and traded it for a new model. Just a good, reliable, basic, four-cylinder vehicle. NEVER had any problems for 10 years. And I inherited a '97 Camry from my parents; that car was super reliable, too. Just change the oil regularly, and go! (I gave it to my Niece.)

    Have you maybe considered a Toyota Corolla? The base model still has the original proven engine and 4 speed auto trans. Or maybe the LE version with the same engine, but it has the new variable transmission. Best selling Toyota vehicle for something like 50 years???
     
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