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Why I won't buy a Tesla Model 3

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by 4rpr15, Apr 1, 2016.

  1. Kramah313

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    I'm not looking to buy one at this time because I just bought my Prius. But Tesla is releasing a good EV at a much more reasonable price that is going to put pressure on the other automakers. Same with Chevy Bolt. I am not sold on reliability of either of those two either, but by releasing decent performing cars with good range at a more reasonable price point they are showing it can indeed be done. Maybe in 10 years or so when I am likely to buy my next car there will be more options for BEVs and hybrids because of it and that is what will help with costs for people and saving the planet. For this reason I hope people do support them by buying the cars (even though I can't afford to do so), they will be making an investment in the future of others.
     
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    mrbigh Prius Absolutum Dominium

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    Yours it is a really positive argument supporting this thread
     
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    Well when Tesla lost more than a billion......they have to wonder. Model 3 will make or break Tesla. Bottom line.

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    50mpg is a great start on my Persona.

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    Model S quickly changed from the best car ever tested to one that had its fair share of major issues when they gave it some time. Then that rating quickly declined. Prius is proven over time....Tesla isn't.

    MotoG3 ?
     
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    Thank you for not driving up demand and keeping prices low for me when I am ready to buy. With 125k preorders already, I won't be able to buy a Model 3 until 2019 which is pretty much around the time my PiP gets 150k miles and solo HOV access expires.

    Teslas are not reliable per Consumer Reports but their customer service is spectacular and they have shown they are willing to support their legacy products. They've announced battery upgrades for the Roadster to increase the range. That car is 8+ years old. Toyota has not shown any love to Gen 1 or Gen 2 Prius owners in terms of upgrades. Even Nissan allows installation of newer "lizard" batteries for 2011-2012 Leaf owners.

    I don't believe in waiting in line to put a deposit down on a product I've never seen. But in 2019, I hope to purchase a Model 3 after early adopters beta test it for me.
     
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    Tesla Roadster 3.0's $29,000 Battery Upgrade: 330 Miles Or ...
     
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    Not true for me at all. I just think the future is BEV. I don't save money buying them, the Tesla will be my third one.
     
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    The more things change, the more people stay the same.
     
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    You still don't get it! A Prius Persona is an ICE vehicle. ICE equals carbon emissions. A Tesla is a BEV vehicle. A BEV equals no emissions.
     
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    I also get that Tesla isnt a proven vehicle since it hasn't been around for a while.
     
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    mrbigh Prius Absolutum Dominium

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    So, how many reliable name brand vehicles you bought and used in your 40 years of existence?
     
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    I won a lemon law years ago against Chevy and Benz, but lets not get off topic here.
     
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    I still get asked about that for my 2004 Prius. Any day now it'll prove it's dependability. I just know it.
     
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    If you charge a Model S at a Supercharger station or off the power grid at your house, you'll probably be producing more carbon emissions than if you were driving a Prius on gasoline the same distance. That won't likely change until the power grid is free from coal.
     
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    Great point. I agree. There's always a downside with owning a Tesla and that's definitely one of them.
     
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    A counter argument to that point would be that all power plants are federally regulated and routinely inspected. The millions of individual vehicles, on the other hand, not so much. Oh sure, there are emissions tests but Volkswagen proved their effectiveness.

    There are members of Priuschat who own EVs and charge them with rooftop solar and wind.

    A blanket statement that all EVs are filthy because some coal-fired power plants are dirty is a cheap and hyperbolic over-dramatization. If there were not EV owners demanding a cleaner grid, there would be no incentive to clean the grid.

    Also, "probably" is not a precise statistical unit of measure.
     
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    We're talking about carbon here.

    I didn't make such a statement.

    Nothing could be further from the truth. Cleaning the grid has been going on long before there were any practical EVs.

    Would you rather have, "depending on where you live"?
     
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    Lets face it folks unless everyone is on board Tesla can only help a small amount with the environment. The fact that Elon already lost billions proves that if one Model 3 doesn't make it neither does he. I am not sure that I want to invest in that ....until it's proven that Tesla will be around for a while.
     
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    Well, I have a 10Kw solar system installed at my home and I'm recharging a work from a 50kw solar system, I do not have any carbon foot print for this regard.
    I had been recharging my PHEVs since 2008 and very happy with the results. The forthcoming Tesla model 3 will be my pinnacle on BEVs, for now.
     
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    No, the CR rating of the car itself did not change at all.
    The survey of owners found a greater than average number of maintenance issues, so it got a low reliability rating. This automatically pulled the "highly recommended" rating.
    Their 100+ score, remains the same (as it doesn't take reliability into account).

    Likewise, the "would buy another" rating is the highest rated of any car, even with the early model issues.
     
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    Again let's see how the vehicles do over time. That's the key.