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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Jun 3, 2016.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Another excellent report from Jeff Cobb: May 2016 Dashboard
    Model 16_05 16_04 16_03 16_02
    1 Prius Liftback 9389 8923 8130 7169
    2 Ram Pickup Diesel 4493 4382 4729 4153
    3 RAV4 4185 3807 3073 2462
    4 Sonata 2513 1788 1884 1588
    5 Camry Hybrid 2055 1975 1746 1599
    6 Model X 2000 1500 1500 500
    7 Prius c 1909 1676 2607 2263
    8 Volt 1901 1983 1865 1126
    9 Fusion Hybrid 1716 2035 2057 1764
    10 Model S 1500 1700 3000 1900
    11 Fusion Energi 1453 1331 1238 932
    12 C-Max Hybrid 1327 1621 1092 880
    13 Prius v (lowercase v) 1215 1322 1331 1112
    14 Leaf 979 787 1246 930
    15 MKZ 805 613 608 585
    16 CT200h 797 577 972 762
    17 ES Hybrid 735 700 894 633
    18 RX 400 / 450 h 719 899 886 752
    19 i3* 696 814 332 248
    20 Avalon Hybrid 660 715 776 590
    21 Colorado Diesel 593 731 578 403
    22 Optima Hybrid 570 483 436 386
    23 C-Max Energi 538 607 610 490
    24 X5 500 655 313 345
    25 Highlander Hybrid 473 442 492 396
    26 Spark 394 419 252 216
    27 500e 388 372 373 195
    28 Grand Cherokee Diesel 377 360 370 308
    29 A3 Plug In 361 321 332 248
    30 3-Series Diesel 332 151 160 119
    31 XV Crosstrek Hybrid 303 303 329 278
    32 Canyon Diesel 294 271 244 225
    33 X5 Diesel 291 250 263 169
    34 e-Golf 269 326 86 198
    35 Sonata Plug In 250 250 275 200
    36 Malibu Hybrid 246 1 2
    37 CR-Z 234 253 163 128
    38 NX Hybrid 229 222 251 236
    39 Range Rover Sport 213 236 408 308
    40 Cayenne S E-Hybrid 191 237 244 172
    41 i8 146 130 89 54
    42 Range Rover 145 120 239 301
    43 GL-Class Diesel 137 90 111 146
    44 Soul EV 120 139 79 60
    45 XC90 Plug In 110 150 178 176
    46 GLE-Class Diesel 102 135 123 86
    47 5-Series Diesel 97 85 152 67
    48 Q50 Hybrid 95 147 335 202
    49 QX60 Hybrid 85 66 195 137
    50 Civic Hybrid 83 92 166 143
    51 forTwo EV 75 66 70 54
    52 Pathfinder Hybrid 60 56 87 72
    53 Focus EV 54 81 110 81
    54 E-Class Diesel 52 307 69 36
    55 B-Class Electric 49 56 66 37
    56 Jetta Hybrid 47 46 47 39
    57 X3 Diesel 45 95 192 130
    58 ELR 45 95 104 91
    59 Lacrosse Hybrid 42 115 83 87
    60 Mirai 41 41 0
    61 Promaster Van Diesel 29 29 33 30
    62 S550 Plug In 27 29 12 36
    63 Panamera S E-Hybrid 26 25 23 33
    64 3-Series Plug in 25 25 0
    65 RLX Hybrid 18 19 19 12
    66 Accord Hybrid 15 29 51 68
    67 Cruze Diesel 11 57 53 35
    68 Q70 Hybrid 10 11 12 10
    69 Insight 9 9 2 0
    70 ActiveHybrid 5 (535ih) 8 2 1 0
    71 GS 450h 7 16 8 5
    72 Regal Hybrid 7 14 7 7
    73 Prius Plug In 4 4 7 6
    74 Tucson 4 4 0
    75 i 2 6 1 5
    76 LS 600h 2 5 4 2
    77 Impala Hybrid 2 3 4 4
    78 Q5 Hybrid 2 2 5 0
    79 ILX Hybrid 1 1 0
    80 GLK Class Diesel 7 10
    81 E400H 1
    82 ML Class Diesel 17


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    • Gen-4 Prius and RAV-4 hybrid - going strong
    • Sonata hybrid - were sales impacted by a too early, IONIQ campaign?
    • Everyone else is muddling along
    Bob Wilson
     
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    wow, prius and hycam are the only vehicles with 4 monthly increases!(y) and fusion energy. and mkz. what up with i3?
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I don't know. We are seeing early lease vehicles in eBay so perhaps these are new leases replacing the ones that were held before:
    1. lease - $4k down, $250/mo., buy-out price $28,000 (*)
    2. purchase $28,000 - $500/mo. for 60 months (*)
    In effect, leasing a new, BMW i3 appears to be cheaper than buying a used one ... unless you want to do something with it or the competition is a Gen-4, Level 3 + TSS-P.

    Bob Wilson

    * - I would appreciate anyone double checking what I found.
     
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    good start for the hymal.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Found an alternate explanation for the Subaru problem:

    Subaru's Rare Problem: Scarcity, John D. Stoll, Yoko Kubota, Wall Street Journal, June 3, 2016, B1

    Chattanooga, Tenn., car dealer Time Kelly says he could use another Subaru, or as many more as he can get.
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    Subaru hopes to lift its supplies of new vehicles later this year by reclaiming capacity at an Indiana factory now shared with Toyota.

    We've seen similar sales dips after Japanese earthquakes and supply chain problems.

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    which one is the subie?
     
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    Posted this bit of snark at Autoline Daily: AD #1877 – Audi Redesigns the A5, Chevrolet Sales Tank in China, Bosch Develops Autonomous Parking App – Autoline Daily

    In the efficient car market:

    Model – May, April, March, February
    2016 Prius – 9389, 8923, 8130, 7169
    RAV4 hybrid – 4185, 3807, 3073, 2462

    The rest were flat-lined. The 2016 Prius would have had one more sale but the Level 2 ECO does not offer the TSS-P, safety system and the Level 3 with TSS-P has a moon roof instead of MPG.

    For the same money, I bought a used, 2014 BMW i3-REx, loaded with their TSS-P equivalent that came off lease with 6440 miles and 2.5 years of warranty remaining. My ‘test’ drive home was 463 miles at 42 MPG via the I40 pass through the Smoky Mountains. First week added over 500 miles in EV with half from free public chargers.

    Cheap gas has made this time a buyer’s market for good hybrids.

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    The Prius is still down 21% from last year. The Rav4 hybrid might be the first Toyota hybrid to actually rival Prius sales.
    The Sonata hybrid is beating its Toyota and Ford competitors. I don't know how the Optima model did previously. This is the first year for the PHEV Sonata, so it might have a slow start.
    BMW recently announced a switch in batteries for the 2017 i3; the BEV is over 100 miles in range, and the REX gets more access to its fuel tank volume with its increase in EV range.
    The Crosstrek.
     
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    Prius + RAV4 sales look good to me, all things considered.

    FORD Fusion Energi sales are decent...we should expect Prime to grab some of those sales. I'd sure like to know who are really buying the Fusion Energi's (Californians? fleets? Corporate? or what). But I know I will never get that answer.
     
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    prius is def the victim of increased competition. that's a good thing, but if the overall market isn't growing much now, maybe the wide range of offerings will be a benefit when prices spike.
     
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    Prius / PiP combo made #20 on top 20 list of May '16 'car' sales. Been a while ... GOOD CAR BAD CAR
     
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    This led to: Toyota Prius Sales Figures - GOOD CAR BAD CAR

    Month Toyota Prius U.S. Sales 2015 Toyota Prius U.S. Sales 2016
    1 January 7316 6102
    2 February 7070 7169
    3 March 9485 8130
    4 April 8822 8923
    5 May 11921 9389
    6 June 9559
    7 July 11203
    8 August 10450
    9 September 9952
    10 October 9611
    11 November 8287
    12 December 10153

    For looking at the Gen-3 and Gen-4 Prius, this is a good source. It does show the steady growth this year but compared to last year, not setting any sales records. However, I still like the Jeff Cobb's survey of all hybrids, EVs, and diesels, the 'horse race.'

    Bob Wilson
     
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