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2010 Prius Check Hybrid System message

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    Hello,

    I was curious if a low aux battery in the back right of the vehicle could cause a Check Hybrid system message not allowing car to start? This morning I get in and got this message, yesterday it was driving fine. I went through the on board diagnostic battery test and getting 11.1v with no load and 10.8v when car on. All lights and radio seems to work. Please help if you can. Thanks
     
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    welcome! definitely. you need a new battery, is it original?
     
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    I think so. I bought it pre owned in feb 2014. No problems until today
     
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    that's a pretty good run. many 2010's didn't last more than a few years.
     
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    Previous owner may have had to replace, i didn't see anything in the paperwork I got. I will replace and hopefully be able to drive again. Thank you for the welcome and for the fast response I really appreciate it.
     
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    Well I went and had the battery tested and it said it was bad. I bought and replaced and still same message. Any ideas?
     
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    you have to go to toyota and have the trouble codes read. unfortunately, they will charge you for this. if you're dying, you can buy a reader, around $75. and a bit complicated to use.

    it's also possible that the light needs to be shut off with a reader.
     
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    Bummer, ok I may look into the reader. Local Toyota place said $125 to run diags. Thanks
     
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    check @ChapmanF , he recommends a good one, i believe. don't buy a non prius specific.
     
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    check your inverter fluid reservoir for movement while in 'ready'.
     
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    Ok just checked what I think is the inverter fluid resevoir.(the smaller one). nothing moving. I hear a humming noise coming from somewhere toward the middle of the engine area.
     
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    not sure, but if there's no swirling, the pump is bad. there have been extended warranties, but not sure about 2010.
     
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    At the moment, I'm making do with one of the Mini VCI clones, but supposedly what makes them usable with Techstream is that they're J2534 compatible, which means other J2534 adapters might (should?) work. I've got a "to do" item for "buy a Tactrix OpenPort and try that" but I haven't yet, so I can't report on how well it works. Even Tactrix faces a clone problem, if you really want to support them doing their development and manufacturing in the US, you pretty much have to buy from their website ... anything that says "Tactrix OpenPort" sold anywhere else, especially if the price is really fabulous, probably isn't one.

    -Chap

    Edit: in fact, the particular Mini VCI clone I've ended up with isn't able to talk to the engine controller, which is the last thing you'd expect, usually you're worried about tools that will talk to the engine controller and not other things. It's weird. Apparently there are Mini VCI versions that don't have that problem ... in the world of Mini VCI clones (and they're all clones now, I think they drove the original developer right out of the business), it all comes down to which version of the original MVCI your clone happens to be a clone of.
     
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    Hi.
    Was the new battery charged?
    To "reset" the Hybrid warning you can unplug the 12V battery for, I think 15 to 20 minutes. After that, when you plug it back in the system will run new diagnostics.
     
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    Thanks for responding.


    Thank you for responding. It was a little low so I went in had it checked at an auto parts store just in case I was sold a bad battery. It was good just a little low voltage at 11.93v. They couldn't charge at the store due to another customer already using charger. So I looked up if I could jump start to get it running and then allow alternator to finish charging it. After I jumped it the check hybrid system message did go away and all looked normal on the dash, but the engine did not kick on. I disconnected the jumper cables. After recycling power again the hybrid message came came back but battery lower again. Do you know what on board voltage should be when you do the lights 3 x and hold info button should be. I am getting about a volt lower from on board to direct battery reading. example. When jumping getting 13.3 v on battery and 12.4v on board. without jumping 11.93v battery and 10.8 - 11.1v
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    Do you know what a normal voltage reading is?
     
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    a new fully charged 12v should be around 13 volts stone cold. if you get the car running, it will take a lot of driving to get it up to snuff, because the car is more of a maintainer than a charger. the diagnostics probably knock off a couple tenths from the reading due to a small draw with the car on. low 12's should fire the computers and relays.
     
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    I only checked the voltage on the 12V battery using a multimeter. I don't know how to check the voltage on board way cause I think I couldn't find the "info" button.
    My voltages were as follow:
    - when the car is OFF I got 12,9V.
    I didn't test it in "Accessory mode" (when the Power button is orange).
    - when ON I got 14,3V.
    With 10,8V - 11,1V I don't think you need to jump-start the car. The car should run but this voltage is still bad. I did discharge my battery once to 10,5V-10,8V, had the Hybrid warning come up but I could drive it. Later I unplugged just the negative cable from the battery and left it for I think 20 minutes. Just to be safe you could leave it for 30 minutes. After that I plugged the negative back and the warning disappeared. If you'll do that all your statistics will be lost and the hybrid system will do a diagnostic on the car so the car won't turn ON the first time you'll push the break and press Power. Just turn it off with Power button and turn it ON again (haha IT Crowd quote: "Have you tried turning it off and on again?" :-D ).
    After I discharged my battery so low I had a 2 day trip and did about 2500km ~ 1525miles and the battery came back to it's good state like I showed above.

    The manual says:
    Also:
    Adobe Reader page number 584 (manual in PDF version) or document page number 563.
    I'll upload the Full Manual in PDF to my drive and you can download it from there if you don't have it. Tried to upload it here but couldn't cause it's too big.
    Instruction - Google Drive

    If you are stationary the petrol engine should not start and if you are in Neutral gear the petrol engine will not start for sure. I don't know how the petrol engine will work in the diagnostics mode when you read out the voltage. I don't know what's the minimum distance you would need to do to recharge your 12V but it's possible. You'll be better with getting a charger but remember those 12V batteries have small capacities so the charging rates are 4.2 A max.
    With the state of your battery I would let it charge for at least whole night. Just remember they emit gas when charging so don't put it in the same room as you.
     
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    The Prius doesn't have an alternator. Was the "cap" on the positive battery terminal seated properly?

    It's time to buy a trickle charger and a digital multimeter. They are not expensive.

    The inverter coolant tank is on the driver's side. If you don't see any turbulence in the tank your trip will last as long as the inverter doesn't get "too hot". The cause may or may not be under warranty. Check warranty status at Toyota Owners Official Web Site .
     
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    If the inverter didn't reach a specific temperature I don't think there would be a reason for the pump to start.
     
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    interesting, i never heard that before, thank you.