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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by Cdgreg, Oct 1, 2016.

  1. Cdgreg

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    '07 Prius with 168k in NY which I bought 5 years ago with 30k as a CPO. My driving habits have changed from 30-40k miles a year when I originally bought it to 15k-20k a year now. My original hope was to keep this beauty until 300k+, but since 150k it has begun "nickel and diming me" by the thousands. My wife and I are really focused on paying down our student loans, so what do you think is our most frugal 3-5+ year plan with this vehicle? Keep pumping money into it or sell it before replacing the brakes & AC, and put that money towards a sub-100k mileage Corolla?

    February 12, 2016 - Replaced both front wheel bearings and rear coil springs ($1,300ish)
    March 3, 2016 - Repaired hood release cable that snapped ($200ish)
    July 22, 2016 - Replaced hybrid battery system, thanks to Toyota Goodwill only cost around $900
    Next oil change - Replace front pads & rotors ($350ish)
    AC Stopped working last week - Unsure of repair, but most likely $1,000+

    So basically since February I have spent $2,400ish
    Pending ASAP $350ish brakes
    Pending if I keep the car $1,000+ A/C

    It feels like the Prius is so specialized that I always have to utilize the higher dealership repair prices as compared to a corner mechanic paying with cash which could be far less on a non-hybrid over the long haul.

    Thoughts? Do I spend another $1,500 on brakes & AC or sell the car for 2-3k, add the $1,500 I would have spent on repairs and put it towards a 6-7k Corolla with sub 100k miles?

    Thank you for your thoughts!
     
  2. bisco

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    i like your corolla idea.
     
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    my thoughts exactly.
     
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    So you've done the front wheel bearings and traction battery, get a new 12v and it's good for another 150,000, it's a toyota and will be an excellent investment for the near future, just keep an eye on the ice oil and keep the brakes lubed and clean.
    That 900$ traction battery was worth 3000$, good show

    The ac may be the Transaxel inverter pump having failed, was covered by Toyota, definitely worth checking.
     
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    I know nothing about cars, but it sounds like you've replaced most of the expensive items and your repair expenses will stabilize.
    If you are interested in selling for 2-3k, I might be interested in buying. Send me an email so we can talk about it.
    Rodsams@gmail
     
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    I second Bisco. If your not able to work on this car yourself or have a pretty good mechanic thats not $150 an hour like where you live an aging Prius approaching bingo will kill you. Best plan is lease a new Corrola or Sentra. Because any used +100K mile car can explode.
    With a new lease or buy car at least you can budget whats it going to cost you every month instead of HOPING it doesn't blow up.
     
  8. jadziasman

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    Gee, someone drives like a bat out of hell and brakes like it too.

    My Prius has 253,500 miles on it. It still has the original brakes and suspension. I put the last 119K miles on it, the first owner the first 134K. I did need to replace the driver's side front wheel bearing (myself) a year ago. The A/C is still ice cold.

    I think you got a lemon. Perhaps now is time to unload it (and don't put another nickel into it). Not many have had the number of problems you have with only 168K miles. Sorry to hear that it happened to you.

    But at least you have that brand new HV battery. That is a big plus. Make the car look pretty and you should be able to get $4000 for it easily. Whatever you do, don't trade it in. Dealers will not give you fair value for it.
     
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    Guarantee you the original front struts and rear shocks are gone
     
  10. jadziasman

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    Nope. Suspension is still good - far from gone. Goes straight down the road. Tire wear is even and I get 70K miles out of a set.
     
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    I bet the service writer (aka sales person) is selling you a scary story about your brakes. If the dealer has been servicing the car the entire time of your ownership, they should have been lubricating the caliper pins periodically; this neglect is usu the cause of people needing pads or pads & rotors replaced prematurely.

    A shame you have some early repairs. I guess the cold and salt roads wreak havoc on bearings and springs.

    The new HV Battery, has extended your Prius for another 100K+ miles/8-10years.

    Sell for no less than $4k. The new OEM HV Battery is a big PLUS!
     
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    Yours sounds like mine was. No signs of leakage. No unusual tire wear patterns. The roads you drive are probably well paved overall, w/ an occasional pot hole here/there, but are able to avoid them. Alignments done and made to specs w/ unknowingly worn components. Tires achieved respectable mileage.

    The vehicle "push," test is meaning less. Mine looked "ok" with the old components on it.

    Remember, you are driving this car daily and won't notice the slow degradation over time. If you had a virgin 2005, as a test control, you would realize the degradation.

    After 7years, 124K miles, only when the old components were removed, and timed for compression to full extension, was the it clear.
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    NEW: 7 seconds each.
    OLD right: 57sec. OLD left 18sec.​

    REAR
    NEW: 7 seconds
    OLD rear: 3min 15sec for one. The other one, way longer, and stopped timing; eventually it did fully extend.​

    It is your car, do as you please.
     
  13. jadziasman

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    Thanks, I will.
     
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    I recommend doing the brakes and driving it for another year. The weather in N.Y.isn't that hot after October.

    I would then find another cheap prius with a failed battery, and swap your good battery in
     
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    Don't ignore this advice cdGreg. If the invert overheats then the AC will (temporarily) stop working. It's often one of the first warning signs of inverter pump failure.

    Make sure to test the AC first thing in the morning before the car has been driven. If it works initially but then subsequently stops working after you've driven for a while then it's probably the inverter coolant pump (an easy repair). Otherwise, yeah it's something wrong with the AC itself, and they can be expensive to fix.
     
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    Not necessarily jadz. My Prius gets driven pretty gently most of the time, and my front pads went out (almost down to metal) at 275000 km, almost exactly the same mileage as the op. That's not a bad innings though. :)

    This happened only a couple of months ago, and I changed the pads myself. The pads (got from the dealer) were inexpensive, and it's not a very difficult job either.
     
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    If the HV electric water pump had failed a P0A93 DTC would have occurred and lit up the dashboard. Can't see how the OP wouldn't notice that. It's one of only two DTCs my Prius has ever had and the P0A93 was 70K miles and 4 years ago.
     
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    Thanks for the thoughts and feedback everyone. I do like the idea of potentially replacing the pads only now, driving it through the winter, and then re-assessing or selling in the Spring as I have fairly new snow tires on steel wheels, a remote starter, and should not need the AC much until March/April. I had not really thought about the car potentially being worth a couple thousand more because of the new battery pack, great points. The Spring market in NY may be better to sell a Prius. I will try the AC when I first start the car this morning. For what it's worth, I drive pretty gently and slowly, but I am sure my braking practices could be improved at times.
     
  19. jadziasman

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    Wait a second. You said the A/C stopped working last week. Why do you think it will suddenly begin functioning again this morning?

    You might find a buyer who wouldn't check the A/C if you sell it in the fall. If you wait until next spring, then A/C is needed again and potential buyers would want to verify that it functioned adequately.

    The way I see it you really have only two choices: sell it now as is or be ready to pay to get the A/C repaired next spring and keep driving it. No reason to sell it if you do the repairs - right?
     
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    I do not think it will suddenly begin functioning again, however, I have not attempted to turn the car on, blast the AC immediately to see if it works initially then fades off into heat. Similar to your other post above, I was under the impression that my dash board would light up like a christmas tree if the inverter pump has failed, but is it possible it is just on the way out and thus has not triggered all the lights yet? I am sure this is just a shot in the dark and there's a 99% chance it is the compressor or condenser.

    I believe I see an Option C based on the ideas above, unless the value of the new hybrid battery will drop significantly over the next 6-7 winter months.
    1. If appropriate only replace the front brake pads instead of also the rotors now (no idea on price difference, maybe $150 v. $350?)
    2. Drive through the Fall/Winter since I will not need the A/C (Heater works fine, tested yesterday)
    3. Sell in the Spring and be transparent about the A/C needing fixing
    I will be honest, the thought of "maybe someone would not notice the AC in the winter" had crossed my mind but my damn morale compass kicked in and told me I have to be honest with a potential buyer on a repair that large.