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What can Drain the Battery ?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by PriusNeckBeard, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. PriusNeckBeard

    PriusNeckBeard Active Member

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    What can drain the battery after I leave the car?

    So far, I've got:

    With the car turned off:

    - Emergency Flashers left on
    - I actually did this...after 12 hours, they were still flashing (faintly?), but the car wouldn't start.

    - Vanity mirror light on
    - i.e. Vanity mirror slid open, light on, visor down. The light seems to turn off when visor is closed (?)

    - Dome light switch in 'always on' position

    - Door left ajar seems to keep overhead lights on permanently as well

    - What about the hatch light? I can't imagine that being left ajar. Still, included for completeness.

    - What about the 12v outlets? (am not sure if they ALL are 12v...hm.) Can any after-market, always-on sort of accessories drain the battey with car turned off?


    Various Car-On scenarios:

    - The big one - all new owners should be alerted to this - Accidentally leaving car in Ready mode
    - i.e. you held brake down and pressed Power button, but got out of car and forgot to turn car off, or went driving, parked car & accidentally left car on overnight, situations like that.
    - With a full tank of gas, depending on A/C, heat, fan, etc, I think this can last like 9 hours or something? Or 40 if no hvac on at all? There's a great thread on this somewhere.

    - Accidentally leave car in ACC-on or the other keyless accessory mode
    - i.e. Foot not on brake, press 'Start' button once or twice. (third time turns off).
    - Am assuming both of these would drain battery as well.


    Intentional battery run-downs - Included for completeness

    - Running the car out of gas completely and then running the other battery/ies down see Bob Wilson's aweseome thread(s)

    - Living in the car with a/c on - once again -- there's a thread stating like 9 hours with hvac, or 40 hours if no hvac and use an electric blanket instead.


    NOT a problem

    - All the external lights other than the flashers seem to turn off automatically after the car is turned off. (except the emergency flashers).


    Fixes

    - Jump start, obviously. Do it correctly or risk damage !!
    - Tow truck/friend
    - Battery jump pack

    - Is it true that you can hold the Start button for 15 seconds when the battery is very low but not completely dead, and the car may start ?
     
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    I think if you leave the car "running" it's ok for the 12 volt, but other problems arise, lol.

    Just sitting is going to wear the battery down. Regular multiple-day hiatus, and that's our situation. Try to drive every second or third day, monitor, and periodically hook up to a charger.
     
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    Leaving a door or hatch ajar will kill the battery within 3 days, even if all interior lights are off (or unplugged in the case of the bottom-of-door lights). Current drain in that case is about 0.7 amperes, roughly equivalent to a single dome light.
     
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    Yeah I set the dome light to completely off, but there's the front door courtesy light, the illuminated door, and there's 2 sneaky little lights under the dash, illuminating the footwell. One time unloading grand kids I got distracted, left driver's door ajar for about 18 hours, battery was down to 11.9 volts. :(

    I recharged it in that case, and replaced it about a year later, it was coming up on 5 years.
     
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    Mendel,

    So, what happened? Meaning- car wouldn't start? *or it would ??@!!?
     
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    Car unresponsive, didn't even bother trying to start. That time I hooked it up to my smart charger (CTEK 3300 at the time), and it ran about 12 hours before it completed, battery restored but I'm sure a bit compromised. I replaced the battery about a year after that.
     
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    I actually had the car run for 11 days in my detached garage while I was out of the country. A friend drove me to the airport, parked my car and never hit the power button. Fortunately I had just filled up and upon my return still had 1/4 of a tank left. No issues with car since then.

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    Wow! I remember when we did our first test drive of a Prius, learning, with some reservations, how the fob worked. The deletion of the need to insert/remove a key has some downsides, especially for the uninitiated.
     
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    About a year ago the 12V battery went completely dead on my 2014 Prius after not driving the car for about 5 - 6 days. All displays, indicators, lights, etc. were completely dark. I checked the 12V battery (at terminals in the fuse box) and it was reading 5.1 volts. I thought for sure the battery was wasted. The only thing I could find was the rear hatch may have been ajar. I always keep all interior light switches in the "off" position. I can't remember whether I jumped the car or put a charger on it, but I got the car up and running (I had to go somewhere). I assumed that I'd done some serious damage to the battery with that 5 volt reading, but it has been well over a year with 100 - 200 starts since then and all is good. I have a Scangauge on the car and the battery reads in the low 12's (volts) when not being charged. I frequently go 3 - 4 days without starting the car and have gone maybe a week or slightly longer once or twice without any further issues. Original battery, 2 1/2+ years old.
     
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    welcome! good info, as testing is the only way to determine a batteries health. they don't appreciate being run down, but it isn't always a death sentence, especially on newer batteries. all the best!(y)
     
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    Absolutely!

    One if the frustrating things is, if you get out ofthe car with the car in Ready mode, although it WILL beep three times (good), that is actually a false sense of security, because if the car is off, it WON'T let you know about the other battery drains. (at least most if them, I think).
     
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    Yes. A system that simply prevents screw-ups is superior, to one that issues "warnings". The latter are the refuge of lousy engineering. As an example: a conventional car key that can't be removed from the steering column, until the car is in Park and Off.
     
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    The Prius is a very advanced vehicle, it would be nice if there was an "automatic off" feature, where all accessory lights would turn off after a couple minutes if you happen to walk away and leave the door ajar, etc.
     
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    I would like a car that stores all settings to a built-in RAM drive (aka jump drive), then completely disconnects the 12 volt battery , with some sorta servo/relay. Then at startup reconnects the battery and restores settings.

    It's probably complex to do tho.
     
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    My wife proved yesterday that if you turn the headlights back on after turning the car off, they will stay on and drain the 12V battery...

    2010 with the original battery, I'll probably just get a new one.
     
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