EU availability and reviews?

Prime is not yet available in EU, only few countries (Netherlands, Finland, Germany) posted their price lists and they are well over €35k with taxes, the word is it will not be available before spring.

On the other hand Toyota hybrid sales are soaring in EU:
Toyota's Hybrid Bet in Europe Finally Pays Off - Bloomberg

Latest hot seller is C-HR, next in line will probably be Yaris and then Auris. I hope they also bring new Camry to EU and replace Avensis, but then again Europe would need estate version of the Camry.

 

According to the Toyota Netherlands website price list here the PiP will cost almost 8000 Euro more than a regular GEN 4 Prius, or a whopping *12000* Euro more, if we consider the 4000 Euro discount offered on Prius these days.

If we add to the too high price tag the not-for-all-tastes design, the four seats, and the reduced trunk room... well personally I like a lot the Prime, but honestly it is difficult at this time to forecast a sales hit, at least in my country (Italy) were the success of the Toyota CH-R vs the flop of GEN 4, which has the same hybrid powertrain, demonstrates that customers prefer a beautiful design to better fuel economies.

 

The price comparison is not really fair. You cannot compare the Prius PHV with the lowest trim level of the Prius Gen4. You should compare it with the highest trim level that costs €36.820. The Prius PHV costs €37.945 (only 1 trim level, with an optional luxury pack for €1500). The PHV does not have standard leather upholstery the Prius Gen 4 highest trim level does have it. But the PHV has the heat pump and matrix head lights. My ordered car is scheduled for delivery for start of April 2017.

 

Many congrats for you order!
You are right, the comparison is not fair, because I understand that between the Priuses sold in Netherlands and in Italy there are meaning differences, in terms of price and equipment: here the Prius highest trim level (Style) has a 30950 Euro price tag, but misses the leather upholstery (a 1250 € optional).

Let's see what will be the PHV price tag in Italy, surely if the difference between the two cars prices is going to be of 1125 Euro only, the PHV is an obvious choice.

 

Price policy can differ per country, also the trim levels can be completely different. You can get leather upholstery as a dealer option. I'm a little disappointed that it is not part of the Luxury pack, I guess as a factory option it can be much cheaper than as a dealer option.

 

When I ordered my 2010 Gen 3 Prius, the leather upholstery was available only on the top trim, while I was going for the intermediate trim. Afterwards, during a trip in US I bought a set of Clazzio upholstery. After seven years, I have to say that the Clazzios look much better than my 2010 Lexus RX450h premium leather seats.... It is lkely that I do the same with the PHV, should I decide to buy it.

 

are there any government incentives there? we get $4,500. federal, plus any state incentive available. prime plus (base model here) is 28k - 1k toyota rebate and 6k tax credit = 21k, same as i paid for my base model '08 lift back.

 

i like to include transportation, since it's on the monroney and basically non negotiable.

 

In the Netherlands you pay less 'car tax (BPM)' and we pay half price for the road tax. If you have a business you can get some tax reduction but that is all rather complicated. It is not as simple as in the US where you get a tax return depending on the battery capacity (as far as I understood from all the messages in the forum).

 

In Germany, 3000 Euro refund on the list price w/o options, 50/50 Toyota/state.

Jan

 

Let's hope customers prefer both.
GEN 4 is not a flop, is a niche vehicle trapped under (very) good Auris HSD sales in Europe. And Auris Touring Sports surely make a good alternative, with a big luggage volume.
If there weren't Aurises HSD, GEN 4 would sell as good as the GEN 3 back in 2009/2010.

C-HR sucess is with the HSD, because the 1.2T is not selling that much.

 

Hi - I have "pre-ordered" my PHV as well and it should arrive as soon as we get the first cars to Finland i.e. March/April - most probably April. My understanding is that in EU area there are two trims available (it seems the same in all countries where information available + Toyota Europe site Prius Plug-In Hybrid | Specifications | Toyota Europe.

I probably will not take the solar roof option since in that trim level you can not get premium package (like JBL Audio, some safety features, automated parking and nice leather two color leather interior). The price difference in Finland compared to equal trim level in Gen4 Prius (what I am currently driving as a "waiting car for PHV") is roughly 5000 EUR.

From techie point of view I certainly would like to have solar roof - practically it does not have any meaning for my usage since my car will be most of the time in Garage (both home and work). It looks cool though and I always support new technologies when available and when it makes some sense to buy the options

But let's see I have not made final decision yet related solar roof..

 

Will be interest to compare prices of PHV and Gen4 with similar trim after incentives (for both) if any.

 

Well, I have posted the German prices and "trims" and colors many weeks ago in the german Prius Forum:

• P4 PHEV - Preise und Ausstattungslinien in D - PRIUSforum

There you see, that we have the SOLAR, COMFORT (with IPA & ICS Option) and EXECUTIVE trims.
Also, we only get 5 color options.

Two days ago I ordered tho Comfort + IPA & ICS trim. They told me that delivery time might be 4-5 months (but i hope, that it will end up a shorter wait ... as many other places suggested something like April).