Featured Slightly Toyota funded coalition calls for weaker CAFE

you want facts, when rumor and innuendo will do?

 

is this where hill posts his 'panties in a bunch' comments?

i'm only messin' with ya jeff, my apologies if i went too far, i'm all for saving the planet.

 

Subsequent title edits to this thread...significantly less misleading now.

 

"shorts"

you?
well - welcome to my world

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My sensitivity goes back to October 2005 when I had just bought a used, 2003 Prius. I was showing it off, demo drives, when an 'earth mother' woman at work said she had heard that the blind are at risk of being hit by these quiet hybrids. From that first one, there has been a stream of anti-hybrid lies often repeated 10 times over by the ignorant:

• landfills full of Prius batteries
• $4000+ Prius battery failures in a few years
  
• Prius makes no profit
• Prius nickel turned Sudbury Canada into a moonscape
• runaway acceleration (not Prius specific)
  
• Hummer is greener than Prius (CNW marketing)
• Auto reviewer snark ('the sun visor is too small' on the 2016 Prius)

When I look at a claim and find it not only wrong but reverses reality and hides the worst offenders ... I have no choice but to 'turn up the squelch' to reduce the noise.

Bob Wilson

 

And because past posts here about this lobby group's action were attributed to GM alone, not even a GM lead coalition.

 

i have to learn not to take these things personally. you just never know who they are aimed at.

 

To be entirely fair, the visors ARE too small.

(I would be OK with either the ability to slide the visor itself along the pole that it's carried on, or a plastic extension to the visor - both solutions would help block sun that comes between the end of the visor and the B pillar.)

 

i would be okay with aftermarket visors, if any decent ones were available.

 

Mine are modded with an extendable length of cardboard - but i guess such a simple notion has slipped by several of the manufacturers. Yep - ugly - but it works

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same here. when i started a new one hour highway drive to see my father, i had to do something.

 

I don't see how jobs are threatened although I guess they could argue the SUV production would have to be cut, and directionally smaller cars are made outside of USA. In any case I suspect the auto industry will get some relief, which is probably needed.

 

CARB is thinking about becoming more strict. But I'm probably on the sideline:

• 67 years old
• Two plugin hybrids

Bob Wilson

 

Really?

if we learned anything from the decades of Hydrogen Hype - & most recently coming from Toyota's spin machine - that there'll be 10's of thousands of hydrogen cars on the road by 2018 ... saying you'll bring it, doesn't seem to work that way. The industry needs to get back to the old claim of "maybe in just 10 more years" ... as it doesn't generate nearly as much skepticism.

guess i'll have to read up on where the synthetic "stuff" originates from - that such a thing is more renewable & cost effective than wind / hydro / PV / geothermal etc.
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Trump's import sabre-rattling indicates that would increase US jobs, but it may be at a reduced profit level.

 

Actually higher prices and fewer sales. There is a reason why WalMart sells a lot of non-USA goods ... a HUGE amount.

Bob Wilson