How much electric distance are the Primes getting?

AC kick on? I know i get a different reading for the A/C effect and without it. Just a thought

 

Nope, no AC and fan was off. Happened again today, 82° and no wind. 2.9 miles left when I got to work and ran out after 1.4 miles. In the mornings I usually gain about 1-2 EV miles in my 3 mile 25 mph zone. I'm guessing maybe the heat? The car was in full sun all day.

 

I am a brand new owner of Prime! Just 2 full days. I charged it to 100% today, but the range indicator only showed 22.1 miles...what happened? I didn't even start driving, just parking next to the EV station.

 

It will adjust according to your driving habits. The more efficiently you drive, the higher your EV range will increase. Cold temperatures will negatively effect that range also. As you drive, that range should increase if you drive efficiently.

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Give it week or 2 and see where you are. Many variables affect your EV miles achieved as noted in this thread.

This is some of them.

 

TThis is why you are asked to move the if finished charging. The charger will penalize you when you overstay your welcome by inducing a reverse field and lessening your total charge.Parking next to a EV station can be even more disastrous, your total recent charge returns to the EV station. If continued any HV potential is erased and the car may not go into ready mode. Instead it goes into Not Ready mode. The Toyota techs have no code, nor fix for this malady. It will then attack your 12 Volt Battery!

 

Finally I'm calming down and driving like a Prius ... efficiently. I'm back to taking lower speed routes, less traffic, and mostly, a much calmer attitude. This driving change is in both our Prime and the BMW i3-REx.

Prius-like driving gives me more time to contemplate and think about other things. In effect, a way to multiplex driving with strategic thinking.

Bob Wilson

 

How do you know you are on the first gallon, perhaps you are on the last gallon? As far as I know, no car has a accurate fuel gauge.

 

Calm my friend. Compared to the earlier Prius, the prime and even our Gen-3 were models of fuel tank metrics. Remember, I'm the guy who runs a car out of gas deliberately to find out what really remains after the last 'low fuel' indicator comes on.

If you have experimental data, please trot it out and we can compare notes. I agree the Gen-1 and reports are the Gen-2 had similar fuel-level issues that were correctly attributed to the bladder.

Bob Wilson

 

To deliberately run out of gasoline for any reason is admirable, however probably results would be still not accurate.

 

I did them multiple times to understand the variability. For example, our 2010 Prius had a range of 2.1-2.25 gallons so I used a reset tripmeter to count down to as low as I wanted. Personally, I prefer the motorcycle, aux fuel approach. Run out the main tank and then flip a valve and know you have 'xx gallons' of fuel remaining. In contrast, the remaining range in the Gen-1 was from ~25-75 miles with median being ~61 miles. I had to use the tripmeter to figure out the remaining gas, ~1.1-1.2 gallons.

NOTE: The Gen-1 helped me understand the tripmeter error was due to the tire diameter. I applied that lesson to the Gen-3 and never looked back. I'm doing the same experiment with our Prime but have not results to share, yet.​

One error in the Gen-1 and Gen-3 was a high-G turn could trigger the low fuel warning giving a false indication of less fuel than actually remaining. I do remember at least one time when the low fuel warning went out in the Gen-3 after a high-G turn, induced low fuel indication, and then went off after a delay of a mile or so.

Bob Wilson

 

The older bugs had that too.

 

Do any Prime owners here have a daily commute of around 50-60 miles one way, mostly interstate? What EV range are you seeing? Overall mileage?

Thanks!

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17 miles each way to work and can just barely make it round trip (34 miles) on a full charge.Trip is combo of town roads (30 MPH) and state highway (55 MPH) with no large hills.

 

Do you have a way of charging at work?

 

Our garage has charging stations. Don't know much about them but I know I can use them.

My daily commute is 55 miles each way, about 45 at 70mph and 10 on surface streets.

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Yes. I charge at work and don't have to bother charging at home unless I have to drive around somewhere else that day..

 

You will eventually want to charge both places. Not sure where you live, but winter will likely not allow you to make the whole trip on one charge if it's close right now. (not to mention some small degradation eventually)

 

Have had mine for 11 days. The first recharge showed about 22 miles. I'm up to 28 as of my last charge. One thing to note is coming to work is a change of elevation of about 1800ft. So coming to work I only use about 11 miles of charge during a 22 mile trip (it's downhill) Going back home... I'll have to get back to you on it... haven't had a regular trip home to evaluate, but its 19 miles (different route) and mostly uphill. So we shall see how much of any EV range left. BTW, in 11 days I've put in 1100 miles. So I've worked the battery pretty good.

 

I am very sceptical as to the truth of this. It sounds like the starting an urban myth. Nobody else has challenged it. Does everyone agree with it?

What does "inducing a reverse field and lessening your total charge" mean technically? How does the charger actually do this, if it does do it?

If the charge could be sucked out of the car by the charger, then I would have thought it must also be possible for owners to use the car's battery power to run external devices or to power their homes. But as I understand it from other threads, only Japanese "Prime" versions can be used for this.

What do others think? @Lee Jay?

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