Does the 2010 really have issues??

Does anyone sue? I mean: there can be lost revenue riding on this. Or they're basically God, and you don't tick God off, lol.

 

sue who?

 

You trying to get this moved to FHOP.

 

whats FHOP? lol

 

Fred's House of Pancakes.

Or if we really get off the rails and into politics, Freds House of Politics.

 

I'm so confused... I'll just see my way out before this thread gets side track.

 

we all do. tell her to suck it up and drive an '09, character building!

 

not a bad idea.

 

@danlatu, being a car enthusiast, is probably right. There are lots of examples on the internet of how an EGR system affects different car models and the results are the same. Just google "EGR cooler plugged". Although the EGR system is good for emissions and fuel economy it puts deposits on the intake manifold, valves, and EGR cooler. Here is another EGR evangelist proselytizing owners to clean the intake manifold and EGR system and also install a PCV oil catch can:

"The clogging problem that older cars have doesn't seem occur on newer cars as much for a number of reasons: ultra low sulfur diesel fuel, more precise fuel delivery and burn, better oil separators in the PCV, and new EGR systems all reduce the likelihood of clogging"

The '95 Saturn SL2 that I owned had lots of sludge problems, oil burning problems, and it had PCV and EGR systems. I installed a PCV oil catch can and it prevented the clogged intake manifold common to that car.

The '07 Saturn Ion I drove was problem free and had no related issues for the life of the car. The aluminum engine ran higher compression but did not have either PCV or EGR systems.

 

Our 2010 also consumes oil and I've done things similar to what Ray has done above. Subjectively, it seems to have gotten better...but does still consume. Maybe I've stopped it from getting worse...who knows. At this point I've resigned myself to be forever vigilant on checking the oil level.

After three long road trips I have concluded that most of the oil consumption occurs when the dashboard gauge is fully in the 'PWR' band. For example, going up mountain passes and such. Curiously, oil consumption appears to me much less while cruising on the freeway in the 'ECO' range of the dashboard gauge.

Here is my recent post about it :

Another oil burning Prius | Page 4 | PriusChat

 

The 2010 model year ran from May 2009 until Fall 2010--some 15 months. The 2009 model year lasted about 8 months. Obviously Toyota built and sold a lot more 2010s than 2009s.

I believe that oil consumption is more dependent on driver behavior. Some people keep their cars close to museum display condition. Others beat the crap out of them.

Every used car purchase is a crap shoot to some degree and the older the car the more likely something will have to be replaced sooner rather than later.

If you aren't comfortable about buying any 2010 then don't. No car is worth losing peace of mind over. A newer car will have a more contemporary look. To get the features in a Gen2 Prius you needed to trade up and get a Gen3 with an option package. Look for and download the sales brochures for every model year so you can identify the trim level of the car.

When there was leftover MY2009 Prius inventory (for the first time) the debate was over the 2009 leftover at a discount or the new 2010 at MSRP. Those who bought the 2009 believed they were getting a better car at a better price.

I'm sorry the daughter wants a Gen3 and can only afford a Gen2. Is she going to be "all in" on the car or will she also have some money put aside for the eventual repairs and maintenance that will be needed? Does she intend to learn how to do the small stuff on the car?

For many of us our first cars were bigger POS and we had to walk miles to school, uphill, both ways, in blinding blizzards.

 

2012 Prius c?
Would that be in the price range?

 

No, I have remained with the original 5K mile interval before Toyota later changed to the 10k mile interval.

 

Many reports of 2010s (all turd gens apply) with major failures before hitting 200k miles, either it be blown head gaskets, clogged EGR systems, or bad oil burning issues.

I guess all cars have their demons

 

This 4,000 rpm limiter from 2013 on is interesting.

 

The 2011 is a 2010 with all the recalls done, you might want to stretch your budget just a bit for the 11. As far as rattles go, there is a correlation between tire pressures and the rattles, the higher you pump up the tires, the more rattles. Another advantage to the ten 3 is no bladder in the fuel tank, so maybe you should consider an 11.

 

How do you figure? The recalls I can think of are the inverter protection, brake master cylinder and air bag, and they all came along much later than 2011.