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National Plug-In Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Analysis

Discussion in 'EV (Electric Vehicle) Discussion' started by bwilson4web, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I'm not sure if this belongs here or in the News forum. Regardless, enjoy.

    Source: https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy17osti/69031.pdf

    This report addresses the fundamental question of how much plug - in electric vehicle (PPEV)) charging infrastructure — also known as electric vehicle supply equipment (EEVSE)) — is needed in the United States to support both plug - in hybrid electric vehicles (PPHEVs)) and battery electric vehicles (BBEVs)).. It complements ongoing EVSE initiatives by providing a comprehensive analysis of national PEV charging infrastructure requi rements.. The result is a quantitative estimate for a U..SS.. network of non - residential (ppublic and workplace)) EVSE that would be needed to support broader PEV adoption.. The analysis provides guidance to public and private stakeholders who are seeking to prov ide nationwide charging coverage,, improve the EVSE business case by maximizing station utilization , and promote effective use of private//ppublic infrastructure investments .

    The analysis is organized around the non - residential EVSE network required to meet consumer coverage expectations and to satisfy consumer demand in high - PEV - adoption scenarios . Coverage and charging demand estimates needed to serve growing PEV markets are made for the communities where people live and the highway corridors on which they travel (Figure ES - 1), including four specific geographic areas :

    • Cities (4486 Census Urban Areas,, population greater than 50,000,, 71%% of U..SS.. population )

    • Towns (33,087 Census Urban Clusters,, population 2,500 to 50,000,, 10%% of U..SS.. population )

    • Rural Areas (rregions not covered by Census Urban Areas//Clusters,, 19% of U..SS.. population )

    • Interstate Highway System Corridors (228,530 miles of highway)) .
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    This is a deep dive into the subject and I've just started.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    nice to know they are thinking about these issues. let's hope it isn't temporarily squashed.
     
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    I love progress. Funny thing is, 100 years ago when gas supply was short, they would simply build a new gas station. As Folks repopulated, they'd simply build more stations as they were needed in new areas. Now, we have to make a process that you can get buried in, from lobby efforts, to environmental impact studies, to traffic studies, power supply logistics, etc. I think I need an aspirin.

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    that's because it's a whole new animal, and not profitable.
    back in the day, dig a hole, fill it with gas, pump it out and go home with the cash every night. in fact, it was so profitable, they'd wash your windshield, check your oil and give you a free gift.:)
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Now they need you to come in and get a drink and snacks to make a profit.
     
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    [​IMG] outwest we didn't get our free gift until we cashed in a couple hundred books of stamps.

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    Back then, you could trust your car to the man who wore a star.
     
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    it was only 25 years ago or so that i got a free cassette tape of 'oldies' for filling up!(y)
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    And today, the only audio cassette you might see in a store is the soundtrack to the Guardians of the Galaxy soundtrack.
     
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    you couldn't even give away cd's.
     
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    I would love if these studies could be done with people who actually own EV's right now. Even people on here with hybrids just don't get it with an EV. You don't need 100miles of range for 99.9% of driving. Heck the majority of people with 40mile a day commutes don't even need L2 charging.

    The problem is that 99.99% of travel is within the city and a 100mi BEV is more than enough for most people. Those that have gas burners as a daily driver say they require charging stations everywhere before they will buy however that's completely useless. You're going to do almost all your charging at home, maybe at work. Charging out in the wild just isn't done.

    The only exceptions are if you are on a long road trip, have a much longer commute, or are a super cheapskate and only charge at free public charger to save $20/mo. The once a year road trips that Americans like to imagine themselves going on but rarely ever do can be handled with a rental car. Spend the $200/we and get a brand new well maintained vehicle to drive across country. If you routinely drive more than 60-80 miles a day, then you need a higher range BEV or a hybrid. EV's are not for everyone. But that fraction of a percent of the population doesn't have to have EV's.

    L3 DC chargers across the interstate system is the way to go. And that's exactly what Tesla is doing. You charge at home except if you're going far. If going far, you're using an interstate. Bam, done. Everybody's house is a gas station in the EV world, and people just don't get that until they own one.
     
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    Right now with my "small" battery, I'm running at 76% EV.
     
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