Any reason to buy anything else but a Model 3?

I'm a Tesla fanboy. I agree self driving will be life changing. However, it's doubtful auto pilot 2.0 on any near term S, 3, or X will come anywhere near level 5 for full autonomous driving. You need to temper your expectations.

I had a conversation with a friend with a model 3 reservation. I said I wasn't interested in the 3 because it's not a hatch. He hates hatches thinks they're ugly and was glad Tesla doesn't make hatches like other EV's. To this day I'm not sure he believes me that the S is a hatch.

Anyway, my sights are set on a used S with auto pilot 2 for the same price as a model 3.
Hopefully, 3 years from now.

 

full self-driving is likely definitely still a few several years off

Probably more than a decade. My opinion.

 

Around a decade is when I'd guess, but I like to leave the possibility that it could be sooner.

 

First of all, what rebates are you referring to? If you order one now, you might not get it until 2021 the way they're going. I'll bet state rebates will also end by that year.

Then there's the insurance, which has been reported to be up to twice a "normal" car. I won't even get into range anxiety - but by then, maybe some of the anxiety will be lessened.

Nice tech and a gorgeous car, I will say that.

 

looking at the o/p's thread history, 10 year membership and vehicle info, i'm

 

The only thing that I can foresee as soon as a decade is there may start to be some freeways that are designated for autonomous driving, at least for certain sections. These sections of freeway would have to meet some type of standard relating to lane markings, on and off ramp lengths, lighting etc. and have been tested to be safe for autonomous cars. Only in those areas would a driver be allowed to nap, read or whatever and not actually drive. There would need to be some type of electronic signal that the highways transmit indicating accidents, road construction, poor visibility due to rain, etc. which will sound an alert in the car letting the driver know that they need to take control of the car in X number of seconds. And also an alert indicating that the end of the autonomous section is nearing, or that your off-ramp is nearing (will have to be tied into the NAV system). Heavy sleepers will need to make sure that they have the volume turned up high on the alert! Maybe the seat will need to vibrate

I would call that restricted autonomous, and I could see that starting in about ten years on a limited basis. Then when proven safe it would expand based on how various states and counties feel about spending the money to get their highways up to standard and installing the electronic equipment. Some areas might create autonomous toll lanes, similar to current electronic pay toll lanes.

As for unrestricted full autonomous, meaning that you can go pretty much anywhere that you currently drive, in the city, business districts, residential districts, country highways, etc. I think that is decades away. I know that is hard for some to accept, but I remember when video phones were just around the corner, that was about forty-five years ago but they only became widely available a few years ago via smart phones. Jet air travel is over fifty years old now, in the 1960's they though supersonic jet travel was around the corner, but all of the projects got cancelled except for Concorde which had very limited flights and now that's gone, and supersonic travel is still considered decades away. Some things just take a long, long time because of the complexities and roadblocks.

Although I do predict that within a decade our dash clocks will be self-setting!

 

I suspect you noticed the one year absence from PriusChat postings:

I was looking it from a different pattern we're seeing of which this is just the latest example:

• <non-Prius Prime advocate> posts a criticism of the Prime and advocating their ride
  • Model 3
  • Volt
  • Ioniq
  • Jetta TDI (recently deceased)
  • Mild/Micro hybrid GM products

Of course it is good practice to let us 'sharpen our skills' describing our purchases but often, this plays in my mind:

This particular OP is not unique. We've seen them in the past and no doubt other dappelgangers will show up in the future.

Bob Wilson

 

guys you are responding to a spam bot. Mods please delete this thread.

 

Well I am assuming 30 replies is enough until we hear more from OP...like to know state of residence...

 

are you absolutely sure?

 

Maybe just move the thread to the Other Cars/Tesla forum

Or start a non-human forum.

 

but that would be admitting that the o/p, bot/human/borg/other has an agenda.

 

...the person is a member here, unless it is an elaborate identify theft..

Hey what do you think? I should get a Model 3? (now you know I was taken over by a spam bot)

 

Bots have rights too you know

 

Classic bisco, right there. Still laughing to myself 2 hours on.

 

You will not get a rebate unless your in the first 200k of model sales. The first wave of presales was over 400k.

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Get the just announced revamped Tesla Roadster. For a cool 200k you can go 0-60 in 1.9 seconds and have a range of 620 miles with a top speed of over 250mph.

LG-H918 using PriusChat mobile app

 

Not before 2020

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