Featured Toyota Prius Prime Will Likely Be The First Plug-in Hybrid To Outsell Chevy Volt

Are you going to claim the Tundra and Sequoia were targeted at just Toyota shoppers? That the arrival of their minivans had nothing to do with Chrysler's success?

In terms of appearance and utility, the Volt isn't much different than the Cruze. Many that looked at the Volt did buy a Cruze.

In terms of good fuel economy and electric driven, GM never had such a car. In fact, no one did. GM took advantage of, and even helped write, the federal tax credits, but so did Toyota in regards to the Prius.

 

Goodbye. I'm not back to playing your keep-the-discussion-active games again.

 

Even if they switch to a different brand and car: Hyundai IONIQ - Prius competitor? | PriusChat

Hummmm, I wonder if we can get the Volt advocates to join the Hyundai thread and leave the rest of us Prius owners alone. <GRINS>

Bob Wilson

 

Perhaps you should have explained how GM targeting more than their base customers was exploiting the tax credits then. A company that doesn't try to bring in new customers will eventually die. It's why Toyota created Scion and has the 86 up on their web site.

Or maybe explain why my claims of Toyota exploiting the credits by limiting early model sales until the market pressures from others brought the costs down was not such an exploit. The tax credits were to incentivize investing in battery and plug in production. Dragging your feet while other companies developed the market may make good business practice, but it undermines the credit's purpose, making such an exploit as opposed to the advantages the credit applied to every one.

Have reported that thread to be moved, Bob?

 

Understand my requirements were never for a tax credit as much as getting TSS-P or something like it. I have that in both our BMW i3-REx and Prius Prime. In fact, the absence in the 2016 Prius ECO left that car on the dealer lot. In contrast, both the Volt and Ioniq impose a significant cost for this basic safety system.

Actually I've posted reasons for moving a stale thread started in December 2015 to an appropriate, "Other car" forum. But if we can somehow get the Volt advocates to sing the same song they do at the Prius to the Ioniq that is gutting Volt sales ... two birds with one stone.

Bob Wilson

 

afaik, that's the game all the manufacturers play, trying to grab sales from the other guy, by hook or crook. Remember the rush to get gen1 volt out so it could grab prospective Leaf sales back in 2010/2011? Isn't that the reason all of the other luxury lines are scrambling to copy the high-end Tesla's? Because they were caught with their pants down? having nothing to offer of what customers in that group really wanted the most? The market is very fickled ... & the market is very amorphic - quickly changing at the drop of fuel prices / customer wage base / geographics / etc - you name it.
iow, no one can accurately say what customers want, unless one talk specifically about price range, time frame, type of vehicle, and the like.
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The report button is just to the other side of the like on, and using report wouldn't add another new post to the offending thread.