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2007 Toyota Prius 92k Miles p0a80 p3000

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by cryztal6, Jan 25, 2018.

  1. cryztal6

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    I purchased my 2007 Prius about a year ago. A few weeks ago the dash lights came on with code p0a80. The dealership confirmed it needs a hybrid battery, stating that battery block 6 has low voltage. They also found code p3000. I have been declined any goodwill several times. They have finally come back with $600 in goodwill, bringing the price down to $2650. I am seeking suggestions / alternatives. So far my car is running fine. I have checked the fan and it's clean. I also changed the 12V battery last week since it was showing 11.8 volts. After a few days the p0a80 code showed up again. I'm not sure how worried I should be since my car still drives fine and after replacing the 12V battery the gas mileage went from 35 to 45 mpg.
    Thanks.
     
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    there really is no way of knowing how long you can drive it like that. have you looked around for independent shops?

    did you call toyota for goodwill, or just the dealer?
     
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    No, I didn't call any independent shops yet. I had asked the dealer and Toyota HQ about goodwill.
     
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    their price isn't too bad, all in all. but if you don't want to spend the money, i suppose it is only a matter of time.
    there are lower cost options, but nearly as reliable as a new battery.
     
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    That price is high. The list brice of a new battery was reduced by $400 on January 1. @ericbecky has the details and I know he convinced another dealer that the price has indeed been reduced.
    If you are comfortable with DIY, the @2k1Toaster kit of new cells for $1600 shipped with a 2 year/25K mile warranty. Details in my signature.
     
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    Thanks for the info! I'll look into the @2k1Toaster kit.
     
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    $2,650 is one of the lowest prices I've heard from a dealer.

    Usually they are in the $3,000+ range.

    I don't think an independent will be much less.

    Dealer provides a 3 year warranty, an independent generally would only be 1 even though it is the same battery.

    At 92,000 miles it would be an easy decision to put in a new battery since I see many Prius with over 200,000 miles on them.

    Whatever you do, don't fall for scammers hat try to woo you with cheap, band aid solutions. Your car deserves better.
     
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    I looked into the @2k1Toaster kit and I see it is back ordered until April. I am looking for a lower cost option than having the dealer replace it and even considering replacing individual modules myself. I'm reading through the message board still trying to find the best option at the lowest cost.
    Thanks for any advice you share. I appreciate it!
     
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    Lowest cost. Doesn't take much time
    Buy a random module.
    Swap out the one that is bad.
    Drive it til something else goes bad.
    Keep repeating until it is annoying to you.

    Won't be reliable, but will be cheap per repair.


    Especially helpful if you never drive far from home or have free towing.
    Although if you keep tools and a module in the car you could do it on the side of the road as needed, too.
     
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    If you do that the best choice for modules may be from Hybrid Automotive. They try to match the mileage of your other modules too.
     
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    Matching is kinda random.
    No one knows what yours are like without you spending time to test them.
     
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    I would replace the bad module but I'm not sure how long that fix would last and it seems like I might be better off buying a new battery from @2k1Toaster
    It still drives fine. However after the car sits overnight the battery level jumps from full to 1 bar then back to full really quick (it's cold here).

    Will it cause further harm to the other cells if I keep driving it?
     
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    Am also in the same boat!

    Looking at online and local shops that do hybrid batteries. Let me know what you find.
     
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    “after the car sits overnight the battery level jumps from full to 1 bar then back to full really quick”

    This is a precursor to battery shutdown. If you do not have alternate transportation, hope you live close to work.

    On craigslist one can usually find someone who will come to your car and do a battery pack swap for $5-600. These services have questionable reliability. If you get lucky one of these new old batteries will last a while, but it will be made up of modules 9 to 15 years old. If you replace a module yourself you still have an 11 year old battery. If your Prius is in otherwise good condition and you plan to keep it for years, you should expect these reconditioned / remanfactured battery packs to fail in your future.

    The best advice I have found on this issue is from the highly regarded Lucious Garage in San Fran, CA (slightly edited):

    “If you’re repairing your high voltage battery in your garage, out of curiosity, fun, or financial pressure, then this does not pertain to you.

    If you’re a customer looking to a professional repair shop, we do not recommend battery rebuilds for second generation Prius, given the known issues. When you pay us for advice, it must hold for the long term as a reliable repair. And financially speaking, the long term cost of rebuilding multiple times is higher than an entire replacement.

    Batteries are wear items; they will all wear out eventually, just like brakes and tires. And the repair is no more remarkable than that of brakes or tires: just replace. Individuals will have success with rebuilds, and they will tell their story. But the probability of success is greatly favored by entire pack replacements.”

    The $1,600 option sounds attractive if you are comfortable removing and disassembling your existing battery and rebuilding it with the new parts. Reliability is yet to be determined. Might be worth giving them a call.

    New Gen 2 Toyota packs have a good track record. Most have been good for 10 years or more. As always, there are exceptions.

    And a decent bottle of wine to ease the mind, $20
     
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    I heard one report of the $1600 kits backordered until April though. Sometimes @TMR-JWAP has other options for sale, either new or thoroughly reconditioned & tested.
     
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    Maybe...... but more importantly the battery will continue to degrade to the point that it fails completely and the car activates "turtle mode". This mode severely limits the EV/battery side of the drivetrain and the car will only (and barely) run on the gasoline engine. This is usually accompanied by the battery fan in the back seat running loudly. Although rare, worst case scenario: one or more of the 28 modules within the pack explodes from overheating but are contained within the protective outer metal case.

    GOOD LUCK!
     
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    I would chime in: $2650 sounds reasonable, all things considered.

    No muss, no fuss, genuine/new Toyota battery, likely good for another decade.
     
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    With the recent reduction of pricing on the pack, $2650 should be the price before the goodwill is applied. Therefore it is reasonable to expect that the OTD price should be $2050.


    [EDIT] Unless CT attracts some horrendous freight charges.
     
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    Yeah maybe, not sure. Depends on your ability to resist, play poker: I still like that $2650, lol.